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Fetish: a form of sexual desire in which gratification is strongly linked to a particular object or activity or a part of the body other than the sexual organs. Our guest discovered his fascination with feet in elementary school and shares how it became a big part of his sexuality. He and his wife consider themselves in the lifestyle but are monogamous. Foot jobs, wrinkly soles, high arches, oh my!
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There's things that you can do sexually with them and like a lot like literally foot jobs Leyna 1:04 so let's get to it. (Podcast Show Open) The conversations you're about to hear are intended for mature audiences. If adult themes are offensive to you, well, grow up… So dirty talk? So sex talk. Yeah, it started off as dirty talk. I was actually like very excited to see my partner with somebody else. She looked at me and said, so you want to have sex with other people. And you find it a turn on to hear about what he did. Yeah. And then it's like, I want to come home and get it the way she got it. Does he know you have a boyfriend? Yes. This is Consenting Adults with Leyna Nguyen (End Podcast Show Open) Leyna 1:39 My guest today is a 48 year old legal assistant from Ontario, Canada married for four years. Mark is joining us today to talk a little bit more about foot fetish, and foot fetish play. So first of all, let's let's talk about you and your wife. Are you guys in a monogamous marriage? Yes. Okay. Yes, we are Have you always been? Yes. Both of you. Guest 2:08 Both of us. Yes. Leyna 2:09 So neither of you have had any experience in the lifestyle. Guest 2:14 Oh, other than ourselves in our own setting in our own bedroom, but not with other people. Okay, I do. You know, sometimes tie her up I sometimes flog I sometimes spanking is my favorite thing to do. Um, Leyna 2:32 Have you both been married before? Yes. So you're both in your second marriage only married for four years. How long into your marriage before you started exploring? Kind of the light BDSM stuff. Guest 2:46 This spanking is what I started with fairly, you know, within, I guess a few months of us dating. The other things I didn't add until much, much later a year or two later. So Leyna 2:59 Did you do this kind of stuff with your first wife? Yes. It's important to point out that when we're talking about the lifestyle, it's not always non monogamy. Although the majority of my guests have been in consensually non monogamous relationships, but the lifestyle is kind of like this huge umbrella. That includes other things like BDSM and other kinks and fetishes, so let's get to this thing. That apparently is the number one fetish that men have. This foot fetish When did you but Guest 3:36 Just to just to point out there are women who have put fetishes to and I've spoken to several, okay, and they are not lesbian, Leyna 3:45 But women who like men speak women's feet. Oh, so straight women who have a fetish for other women's feet. Guest 3:55 That's right, but don't have any inkling to have any relations with another woman. They just basically enjoy their feet and it turns them on, but that's it. That's as far as they go. Leyna 4:07 What did you realize that you had a thing for feet? Guest 4:10 It was probably around nine years old, and it wasn't sexual. At nine years old. Obviously. It was when ladies would cross your legs and bounce a high heel or a flip flop and for some reason it mesmerized me I don't know why it just caught my eye caught my attention and I just thought it was beautiful. That's where it started. Obviously, it didn't go further until I was a teen when it wasn't just a beautiful thing. It became a sexy thing and then more of a sexual thing. Leyna 4:47 When it became more of a sexual thing. How did it progress like instead of just appreciating the beauty that you saw, explain to me how it became more sexual. Guest 4:56 I didn't know it could go to to be sexual until I guess some sort of porn magazines. And seeing ladies feet in there. And sometimes it'd be pictures with the ladies feet on the gentlemen. So I realized oh, and then realize that was a huge turn on. Like it was like it was an awakening. I'm like, Oh, I thought they just look at them, you know? But there's things that you can do sexually with them and Leyna 5:25 Like what? Guest 5:27 Like literally foot job. There's several ways of doing that. So basically either the lady can do to to the male and he just sits there and enjoys it if the lady is experienced and knows what she's doing or the guy can grab the lady's feet and either Oh, in between the middle I guess the middle arch of the foot. Some like the padding on each side sensation there. For some it's between the I don't know what to call the knuckle on the toe like inside, the toes are wrapped around it and you feel the one side of the padding and one side of the toe and rubbing up and down that sensation. I didn't know how amazing that could be until it was done to me. Leyna 6:15 Do you remember the first time it was done to you? Guest 6:17 Yes, I was a I was a teen I was not too old. And it was one of the things that you could do without teen pregnancy. Right. So it was an easy thing for my girlfriend at the time to do it was and she was okay with exploring that and she had beautiful feet. So it was it was easy for me and she was very nervous about going any further and you know, so it was like okay, well we could do things that don't get us pregnant, and that was one of them. And it was unbelievable. I remember I couldn't believe how wonderful it felt Leyna 6:53 What did she do? Guest 6:54 I laid on the couch on one side of the couch and she laid on the other and literally placed her flat foot on top of me and rocked back and forth just like as if you weren't giving a hand job with her foot but just on the top. That's how she started she was inexperienced as well. There was not much knowledge from both of us in sex at that time. It was always exploring. It was the first real girlfriend for me and I was her first real boyfriend. So it was an incredible experience. I don't think that there's a lot of men out there that realizing that they don't have a foot fetish, the sensation of if it's a well manicured ladies foot. It feels amazing. Feel the sensation. It actually feels incredible. It really does and I've had other people say I don't have a fetish but I tried to just see see how I liked it. It didn't do like the foot itself didn't do anything but the sensation was wondering like it felt great, Leyna 7:55 right. So it's a different feeling than say like a hand. That's right. And to you it's better than a hand. Guest 8:02 For me. Yes. Being a foot fetish, Yes Leyna 8:06 Right? Yes. What else? Do you prefer it to like? Do you prefer to oral? Guest 8:10 No, it’s about on equal grounds? Leyna 8:14 Okay, and then earlier you said you know, some women are pretty good at it. They know what they're doing. What does that mean? Guest 8:22 Well, they can sit in a position any position whether it be like the one I described with my first girlfriend where they use the bottom of the foot or they can use their feet to wrap around and stroke both feet on each side, up and down. They can sit in a position where they can place it between the knuckles of the inside the toes and the pattern, stroke up and down. It takes a lot of leg power. So it's not an easy thing. It is a very difficult that you have to have strong muscles and strong legs to do that and not a lot of people can and it takes a lot of practice. It's feels unbelievable because it's not you doing it right. So if I'm grabbing instead of and doing it it feels amazing but a different right. feels even better when you're not when you're just laying back and just enjoying it. Without putting your hands anywhere. Leyna 9:18 No effort. No effort, no effort on your right. I have to ask you like Does anyone ever get you know, like that cramp on your foot? Guest 9:27 I think one person did Yes. And that ended that for that session, but it didn't dissuade them from trying again. Yeah. Leyna 9:36 What do you like in a foot like to you what makes a sexy foot? Guest 9:42 There's several categories but the main I think that most would practice just could agree that it starts with whether you like a clean foot or a dirty foot. Leyna 9:51 Oh, is that where it starts? Pretty much Guest 9:52 That's you know, because then it changes to what other things like I prefer a clean, well manicured foot. My preference is colored toes. There are some that don't toenails. That's toenails Yeah. So colored toenails. There are some that do not like red, whereas I do love red but red and pink are my favorite. And then purples. A third I love a high arched, high arch, very high arch and rather than someone who's flat foot, but that's just my preference. Everyone has their own kink when it comes to to feed or fetish what they liked. My mine are different than many other people. But some people like a sole that has a lot of wrinkles and a lot of wrinkles that that turns them on and I'm just looking at that not just touching but looking at for what do you like I do like the sole but it's not as much of a turn on for me it's still pretty and then like it and certain positions that's how you during sex that's how you are able to see the foot is just the sole. And it does turn me on when engaged in sex. Some people enjoy toes that have longer toenails Leyna 11:15 Longer toenails? Guest 11:16 That's right. Just a bit longer like just not I'm not talking huge long I'm just a bit longer where it sits. The toenail goes as far as like half inch or so off the edge of the toes. And I prefer them nice. Cut close like that's my preference. Leyna 11:36 Have you ever had like an accident because clearly you can't control your feet the way you can control your hands. Especially if they have toenails or do you ever get cut or anything like that? Does that happen? I'm sure it happens. Guest 11:49 I'm sure it happens. Yes, absolutely. I haven't experienced that. Thank goodness. Leyna 11:53 And and you're into bare feet like some men like heels because I hear that a lot the talking of Guest 12:00 I do enjoy heels as well. Oh, what excites me about the heels. This is a whole different sort of sub category is you can see a beautiful arch and heel depending on the heel. It just has like a low I guess siding to the to the shoe. You can see the beautiful arch. Then open toe obviously you can see the lady's toes which is kind of like that peekaboo sexy effect, where the toes are some toes are all tools are sticking out. The other is some people like toe cleavage Leyna 12:36 That’s in between the big toe and the other one Guest 12:39 All the all the tools when they're in a shoe right? It sort of gives the look of you know, between a woman's breasts cleavage because the top of the shoe doesn't cover all or the whole foot there's some shoes that you can see just the lines like It's like sort of. Oh, totally. Leyna 14:03 I’m impressed that you know that there's a difference between open toe and peekaboo that's yeah, impressive Mark. Um, do some men like prefer the heel? Guest 14:17 Yes. Heels are very important some. Leyna 14:22 So are some men into like rough feet because you know, absolutely. Oh, there are calloused like yes, like you haven't had a pedicure in a while. Guest 14:32 Yeah, there's some that that's there's a fetish for each Leyna 14:35 Because they like it rough, right? Yeah, Guest 14:38 They like it raw and sometimes the heel is what will stomp on the guy. They love it. Why? Leyna 14:47 Okay, so I did just interview someone on CBT and ballbusting. And he also had a foot fetish. It appears that there are some kinks and fetishes that kind of intertwine and often go together. That's right. Does the foot fetish kind of often go with with that other stuff? Kind of the ballbusting the you know, and we're not talking? Yeah, for some people might be like a lighter degree. Right? But seems to go together for some people. Interesting. Yeah. Other than the foot or the feet actually touching you sexually. Do you get off on other stuff like you know, sucking their toes or doing stuff while you're having actual intercourse? Absolutely, like what Guest 15:39 I enjoy licking the foot from heel to toe. Sucking on each individual tone. That's that's something that I enjoy quite a bit. And it's all part of sort of like a foreplay type thing right? You can do during sex as well. Wait you can do what can obviously suck on toes and everything during sex, which I do Leyna 16:02 Oh during sex Guest 16:03 Ah yeah during sex but it's a nice it's a nice way to lead up to nice foreplay to lead up to sex. Some people do it during as well. During sex, I enjoy placing feet on my face sometimes just you can feel the just feels the soft padding just it's the turn on. And sometimes taking in a bit of the scent of the lady's foot is a turn on. And not that for me is a turn on. If it's not like if the lady hasn't gone to the gym and done like an hour of aerobics and then stays here smell my foot. That's not for me, but it is for some they love. Oh, but But it's like, scent for some reason. Yes, it does. Trigger makes it sexy and, and it's a turn on. Yes. I've actually had where when you're actually smelling a lady's feet that you can I know it's strange and I don't know why but I can tell when the lady cycles about to happen because the scent in the foot changes and it goes from this lovely to oh my goodness, I need this lady now because of the pheromones and because of the it's I know it's kind of strange but literally a few like where were the lady all of a sudden cycles here. Right? So and it's like, okay, that's why that scent changed a little bit in the end. It happens. That's that. I don't know how many other people have experienced that. I have. So that's part of the scent is knowing my favorite thing to do is place the feet on my chest during sex. That's my my baby feeling the feet on my chest during sex so I enjoy them touching I feel them. And if we're in a position that they can touch me, and for me, it's only my wife's feet. I do not think of any other foot whether I've seen it in porn or pictures. I think of hers and I'm able to finish so I don't need it but I sort of do. I don't just see it. I can picture it in my mind and helps. Leyna 18:22 But when you say that you don't need it. You actually do because you have to think it. Guest 18:25 Sort of yeah, sort of I don't I don't have to to finish but yes, it does help me get there, that's for sure. Leyna 18:31 Okay, hold on. Hold on. You say that you need it. But if for instance during sex, the fact that her foot touched you and that turns you on. Then I'm then it came became a part of it. Guest 18:48 No, it does. Yes. Leyna 18:49 Have you had sex and finish? Where? Like there was no feet involved at all in your head or physically? Guest 18:58 I don't. I don't think so. There was always some sort of these brain activity rapid like can't visually see or touch Leyna 19:06 Right. Okay. And I've and I don't know if it's true or correct or whatever, but the way it was explained to me by someone who who was really into the Fetish world and the kink world that you know, kink is yeah, you know, I'm into that but I can take or leave. I don't have to have that. But fetish is more like you really need it. To some degree to be able to get off. Yes. And it sounds like you do. Yeah, yeah. Okay, so All right. Have you ever been in a relationship whether or not was serious, but it was any woman who like just wasn't going to have it? No. So they were all okay with it like okay, yes, sure. You can suck my toe Guest 19:52 I I have been very much I don't know how that aligned and you know, the stars aligned for me, I guess but I Anyone that I've said I've been very front from the very beginning, not like first time you meet somebody, because I'm still a little bit. I'm still shy. I'm still careful because of the stigma. There's a lot of people that think fetishes are weirdos or have some sort of weird mental thing. Why would they like Leyna 20:25 So Mark? What is like your fantasy? Like if I asked you like, ultimate fantasy, what would that be? Guest 20:33 It would be I guess laying on the floor. And ladies having several ladies having feet all over me. So one ready to feet on my face, one to my chest. One feet on me in the park. One on the probably in the, I guess the groin type area and another one rubbing up against my feet. That would be just and that's all it would have to be they could have all the clothes on just their bare feet. That's it. It's never going to happen but Leyna 21:07 Well, you never know. But I bet you that fantasy is probably easier to make come true than the fantasy most men have and that would be a bunch of naked women having sex with them, right? That's right. So your fantasy is probably more likely to come true than those other ones. Your wife knowing that you have this foot fetish. Like Does she ever try to catch you staring at another woman's feet? Guest 21:39 It's not a cheating thing for me looking at or, or or staring at another lady's feet that walks by and it's more of a I appreciate the beauty. That's it. That's all and I've been upfront even with my current wife saying I will look at other ladies. probably notice that before anything else, right? So and every one of them have been very understanding okay, it's just a visual thing you just look and that's that. Leyna 22:11 Like, you walking into a pool party is like, right? Guest 22:17 Yes. Yeah. And it's Yeah, absolutely. It's, it's wonderful. Leyna 22:22 Okay. Have you ever found yourself looking at admiring whatever? A man's feet? No, never. No. Have you masturbated to like pictures of feet? Guest 22:37 Yes, absolutely. Leyna 22:39 Okay, what about hair on feet? Guest 22:43 Some foot fetishes love that. I happen to not. Okay. I do not no. It's not for me. That's not one of the things I enjoy. Leyna 22:52 And how about the size of the foot? Guest 22:54 For myself? I prefer a little bit, you know, larger like eight and a size eight. And for me that's Oh, that's what Leyna 23:05 I like larger feet. Guest 23:08 I do. A lot of men like the dainty, cute small ladies. Leyna 23:16 If you were to talk someone who maybe just privately has this kink or fetish any any words of wisdom on how to explore that? How to incorporate it more into their sexuality so that they can enjoy the most out of it. Guest 23:37 For the longest time thought there was something wrong with me. Why do I like feet what's going on? And that's why I went in search for grand answers. And when I was in my mid 30s And I realized okay, you know, I wanted to get rid of it. Is there a way I can trick my brain into not liking it anymore? Because I want to be like everyone else. And that didn't happen instead. I just felt that okay, I'm gonna embrace this. I'm not going to feel that it's a bad thing. It's it's just my thing. Everybody has their own thing and some some people's things is there's no thing right? So they don't have any type of they're just I guess, vanilla or whatever. Leyna 24:20 I don't have vanillas a flavor too nothing wrong with that. Guest 24:23 Exactly. And that's, and that's where the one thing about being a foot fetish is that you're more open to everybody's differences and what they enjoy and like, because you can't sit there and say, Oh, gee, you're a weirdo when I don't want to be called a weirdo for what I am. So I really am open to anybody's difference. That's what they like, as long as it's all consensual and people are, you know, both parties are consenting to it and they both enjoy what they're doing whatever it is. Go ahead have fun, which whichever way it is. Leyna 25:01 Thanks to mark and all of my guests for sharing their stories with me. In fact, I'm always looking for new guests so find me on Twitter at LeynanguyenTV or simply go to our website consentingadultsshow.com And we'll get your story on the air. Okay, next time on consenting adults, someone finally explains why chastity is such a turn on for them and how it enhances their sexuality. Guest 25:26 So the other night she used a deep tissue massage. It's not really a vibrator because it's it's almost like a hammer drill. Oh, yeah, I know what those are. Yeah, so she put that up against the cage. And I last probably 90 seconds. Leyna 25:44 That's next time on consenting adults. Guest 0:57 There's things that you can do sexually with them and like a lot like literally foot jobs Leyna 1:04 so let's get to it. (Podcast Show Open) The conversations you're about to hear are intended for mature audiences. If adult themes are offensive to you, well, grow up… So dirty talk? So sex talk. Yeah, it started off as dirty talk. I was actually like very excited to see my partner with somebody else. She looked at me and said, so you want to have sex with other people. And you find it a turn on to hear about what he did. Yeah. And then it's like, I want to come home and get it the way she got it. Does he know you have a boyfriend? Yes. This is Consenting Adults with Leyna Nguyen (End Podcast Show Open) Leyna 1:39 My guest today is a 48 year old legal assistant from Ontario, Canada married for four years. Mark is joining us today to talk a little bit more about foot fetish, and foot fetish play. So first of all, let's let's talk about you and your wife. Are you guys in a monogamous marriage? Yes. Okay. Yes, we are Have you always been? Yes. Both of you. Guest 2:08 Both of us. Yes. Leyna 2:09 So neither of you have had any experience in the lifestyle. Guest 2:14 Oh, other than ourselves in our own setting in our own bedroom, but not with other people. Okay, I do. You know, sometimes tie her up I sometimes flog I sometimes spanking is my favorite thing to do. Um, Leyna 2:32 Have you both been married before? Yes. So you're both in your second marriage only married for four years. How long into your marriage before you started exploring? Kind of the light BDSM stuff. Guest 2:46 This spanking is what I started with fairly, you know, within, I guess a few months of us dating. The other things I didn't add until much, much later a year or two later. So Leyna 2:59 Did you do this kind of stuff with your first wife? Yes. It's important to point out that when we're talking about the lifestyle, it's not always non monogamy. Although the majority of my guests have been in consensually non monogamous relationships, but the lifestyle is kind of like this huge umbrella. That includes other things like BDSM and other kinks and fetishes, so let's get to this thing. That apparently is the number one fetish that men have. This foot fetish When did you but Guest 3:36 Just to just to point out there are women who have put fetishes to and I've spoken to several, okay, and they are not lesbian, Leyna 3:45 But women who like men speak women's feet. Oh, so straight women who have a fetish for other women's feet. Guest 3:55 That's right, but don't have any inkling to have any relations with another woman. They just basically enjoy their feet and it turns them on, but that's it. That's as far as they go. Leyna 4:07 What did you realize that you had a thing for feet? Guest 4:10 It was probably around nine years old, and it wasn't sexual. At nine years old. Obviously. It was when ladies would cross your legs and bounce a high heel or a flip flop and for some reason it mesmerized me I don't know why it just caught my eye caught my attention and I just thought it was beautiful. That's where it started. Obviously, it didn't go further until I was a teen when it wasn't just a beautiful thing. It became a sexy thing and then more of a sexual thing. Leyna 4:47 When it became more of a sexual thing. How did it progress like instead of just appreciating the beauty that you saw, explain to me how it became more sexual. Guest 4:56 I didn't know it could go to to be sexual until I guess some sort of porn magazines. And seeing ladies feet in there. And sometimes it'd be pictures with the ladies feet on the gentlemen. So I realized oh, and then realize that was a huge turn on. Like it was like it was an awakening. I'm like, Oh, I thought they just look at them, you know? But there's things that you can do sexually with them and Leyna 5:25 Like what? Guest 5:27 Like literally foot job. There's several ways of doing that. So basically either the lady can do to to the male and he just sits there and enjoys it if the lady is experienced and knows what she's doing or the guy can grab the lady's feet and either Oh, in between the middle I guess the middle arch of the foot. Some like the padding on each side sensation there. For some it's between the I don't know what to call the knuckle on the toe like inside, the toes are wrapped around it and you feel the one side of the padding and one side of the toe and rubbing up and down that sensation. I didn't know how amazing that could be until it was done to me. Leyna 6:15 Do you remember the first time it was done to you? Guest 6:17 Yes, I was a I was a teen I was not too old. And it was one of the things that you could do without teen pregnancy. Right. So it was an easy thing for my girlfriend at the time to do it was and she was okay with exploring that and she had beautiful feet. So it was it was easy for me and she was very nervous about going any further and you know, so it was like okay, well we could do things that don't get us pregnant, and that was one of them. And it was unbelievable. I remember I couldn't believe how wonderful it felt Leyna 6:53 What did she do? Guest 6:54 I laid on the couch on one side of the couch and she laid on the other and literally placed her flat foot on top of me and rocked back and forth just like as if you weren't giving a hand job with her foot but just on the top. That's how she started she was inexperienced as well. There was not much knowledge from both of us in sex at that time. It was always exploring. It was the first real girlfriend for me and I was her first real boyfriend. So it was an incredible experience. I don't think that there's a lot of men out there that realizing that they don't have a foot fetish, the sensation of if it's a well manicured ladies foot. It feels amazing. Feel the sensation. It actually feels incredible. It really does and I've had other people say I don't have a fetish but I tried to just see see how I liked it. It didn't do like the foot itself didn't do anything but the sensation was wondering like it felt great, Leyna 7:55 right. So it's a different feeling than say like a hand. That's right. And to you it's better than a hand. Guest 8:02 For me. Yes. Being a foot fetish, Yes Leyna 8:06 Right? Yes. What else? Do you prefer it to like? Do you prefer to oral? Guest 8:10 No, it’s about on equal grounds? Leyna 8:14 Okay, and then earlier you said you know, some women are pretty good at it. They know what they're doing. What does that mean? Guest 8:22 Well, they can sit in a position any position whether it be like the one I described with my first girlfriend where they use the bottom of the foot or they can use their feet to wrap around and stroke both feet on each side, up and down. They can sit in a position where they can place it between the knuckles of the inside the toes and the pattern, stroke up and down. It takes a lot of leg power. So it's not an easy thing. It is a very difficult that you have to have strong muscles and strong legs to do that and not a lot of people can and it takes a lot of practice. It's feels unbelievable because it's not you doing it right. So if I'm grabbing instead of and doing it it feels amazing but a different right. feels even better when you're not when you're just laying back and just enjoying it. Without putting your hands anywhere. Leyna 9:18 No effort. No effort, no effort on your right. I have to ask you like Does anyone ever get you know, like that cramp on your foot? Guest 9:27 I think one person did Yes. And that ended that for that session, but it didn't dissuade them from trying again. Yeah. Leyna 9:36 What do you like in a foot like to you what makes a sexy foot? Guest 9:42 There's several categories but the main I think that most would practice just could agree that it starts with whether you like a clean foot or a dirty foot. Leyna 9:51 Oh, is that where it starts? Pretty much Guest 9:52 That's you know, because then it changes to what other things like I prefer a clean, well manicured foot. My preference is colored toes. There are some that don't toenails. That's toenails Yeah. So colored toenails. There are some that do not like red, whereas I do love red but red and pink are my favorite. And then purples. A third I love a high arched, high arch, very high arch and rather than someone who's flat foot, but that's just my preference. Everyone has their own kink when it comes to to feed or fetish what they liked. My mine are different than many other people. But some people like a sole that has a lot of wrinkles and a lot of wrinkles that that turns them on and I'm just looking at that not just touching but looking at for what do you like I do like the sole but it's not as much of a turn on for me it's still pretty and then like it and certain positions that's how you during sex that's how you are able to see the foot is just the sole. And it does turn me on when engaged in sex. Some people enjoy toes that have longer toenails Leyna 11:15 Longer toenails? Guest 11:16 That's right. Just a bit longer like just not I'm not talking huge long I'm just a bit longer where it sits. The toenail goes as far as like half inch or so off the edge of the toes. And I prefer them nice. Cut close like that's my preference. Leyna 11:36 Have you ever had like an accident because clearly you can't control your feet the way you can control your hands. Especially if they have toenails or do you ever get cut or anything like that? Does that happen? I'm sure it happens. Guest 11:49 I'm sure it happens. Yes, absolutely. I haven't experienced that. Thank goodness. Leyna 11:53 And and you're into bare feet like some men like heels because I hear that a lot the talking of Guest 12:00 I do enjoy heels as well. Oh, what excites me about the heels. This is a whole different sort of sub category is you can see a beautiful arch and heel depending on the heel. It just has like a low I guess siding to the to the shoe. You can see the beautiful arch. Then open toe obviously you can see the lady's toes which is kind of like that peekaboo sexy effect, where the toes are some toes are all tools are sticking out. The other is some people like toe cleavage Leyna 12:36 That’s in between the big toe and the other one Guest 12:39 All the all the tools when they're in a shoe right? It sort of gives the look of you know, between a woman's breasts cleavage because the top of the shoe doesn't cover all or the whole foot there's some shoes that you can see just the lines like It's like sort of. Oh, totally. (Sponsor’s Ad) Okay. Okay, you guys, so I'm about to put in another order for athletic greens. Now I'm telling you because to me, that's significant. I love trying new things, especially if it's supposed to be good for my health, but the fact that I'm reordering means I'm loving it. Instead of taking a handful of supplements every day, which I hate doing. It's just one scoop and a cup of water every day. That's it and it tastes good. 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Oh, there are calloused like yes, like you haven't had a pedicure in a while. Guest 14:32 Yeah, there's some that that's there's a fetish for each Leyna 14:35 Because they like it rough, right? Yeah, Guest 14:38 They like it raw and sometimes the heel is what will stomp on the guy. They love it. Why? Leyna 14:47 Okay, so I did just interview someone on CBT and ballbusting. And he also had a foot fetish. It appears that there are some kinks and fetishes that kind of intertwine and often go together. That's right. Does the foot fetish kind of often go with with that other stuff? Kind of the ballbusting the you know, and we're not talking? Yeah, for some people might be like a lighter degree. Right? But seems to go together for some people. Interesting. Yeah. Other than the foot or the feet actually touching you sexually. Do you get off on other stuff like you know, sucking their toes or doing stuff while you're having actual intercourse? Absolutely, like what Guest 15:39 I enjoy licking the foot from heel to toe. Sucking on each individual tone. That's that's something that I enjoy quite a bit. And it's all part of sort of like a foreplay type thing right? You can do during sex as well. Wait you can do what can obviously suck on toes and everything during sex, which I do Leyna 16:02 Oh during sex Guest 16:03 Ah yeah during sex but it's a nice it's a nice way to lead up to nice foreplay to lead up to sex. Some people do it during as well. During sex, I enjoy placing feet on my face sometimes just you can feel the just feels the soft padding just it's the turn on. And sometimes taking in a bit of the scent of the lady's foot is a turn on. And not that for me is a turn on. If it's not like if the lady hasn't gone to the gym and done like an hour of aerobics and then stays here smell my foot. That's not for me, but it is for some they love. Oh, but But it's like, scent for some reason. Yes, it does. Trigger makes it sexy and, and it's a turn on. Yes. I've actually had where when you're actually smelling a lady's feet that you can I know it's strange and I don't know why but I can tell when the lady cycles about to happen because the scent in the foot changes and it goes from this lovely to oh my goodness, I need this lady now because of the pheromones and because of the it's I know it's kind of strange but literally a few like where were the lady all of a sudden cycles here. Right? So and it's like, okay, that's why that scent changed a little bit in the end. It happens. That's that. I don't know how many other people have experienced that. I have. So that's part of the scent is knowing my favorite thing to do is place the feet on my chest during sex. That's my my baby feeling the feet on my chest during sex so I enjoy them touching I feel them. And if we're in a position that they can touch me, and for me, it's only my wife's feet. I do not think of any other foot whether I've seen it in porn or pictures. I think of hers and I'm able to finish so I don't need it but I sort of do. I don't just see it. I can picture it in my mind and helps. Leyna 18:22 But when you say that you don't need it. You actually do because you have to think it. Guest 18:25 Sort of yeah, sort of I don't I don't have to to finish but yes, it does help me get there, that's for sure. Leyna 18:31 Okay, hold on. Hold on. You say that you need it. But if for instance during sex, the fact that her foot touched you and that turns you on. Then I'm then it came became a part of it. Guest 18:48 No, it does. Yes. Leyna 18:49 Have you had sex and finish? Where? Like there was no feet involved at all in your head or physically? Guest 18:58 I don't. I don't think so. There was always some sort of these brain activity rapid like can't visually see or touch Leyna 19:06 Right. Okay. And I've and I don't know if it's true or correct or whatever, but the way it was explained to me by someone who who was really into the Fetish world and the kink world that you know, kink is yeah, you know, I'm into that but I can take or leave. I don't have to have that. But fetish is more like you really need it. To some degree to be able to get off. Yes. And it sounds like you do. Yeah, yeah. Okay, so All right. Have you ever been in a relationship whether or not was serious, but it was any woman who like just wasn't going to have it? No. So they were all okay with it like okay, yes, sure. You can suck my toe Guest 19:52 I I have been very much I don't know how that aligned and you know, the stars aligned for me, I guess but I Anyone that I've said I've been very front from the very beginning, not like first time you meet somebody, because I'm still a little bit. I'm still shy. I'm still careful because of the stigma. There's a lot of people that think fetishes are weirdos or have some sort of weird mental thing. Why would they like Leyna 20:25 So Mark? What is like your fantasy? Like if I asked you like, ultimate fantasy, what would that be? Guest 20:33 It would be I guess laying on the floor. And ladies having several ladies having feet all over me. So one ready to feet on my face, one to my chest. One feet on me in the park. One on the probably in the, I guess the groin type area and another one rubbing up against my feet. That would be just and that's all it would have to be they could have all the clothes on just their bare feet. That's it. It's never going to happen but Leyna 21:07 Well, you never know. But I bet you that fantasy is probably easier to make come true than the fantasy most men have and that would be a bunch of naked women having sex with them, right? That's right. So your fantasy is probably more likely to come true than those other ones. Your wife knowing that you have this foot fetish. Like Does she ever try to catch you staring at another woman's feet? Guest 21:39 It's not a cheating thing for me looking at or, or or staring at another lady's feet that walks by and it's more of a I appreciate the beauty. That's it. That's all and I've been upfront even with my current wife saying I will look at other ladies. probably notice that before anything else, right? So and every one of them have been very understanding okay, it's just a visual thing you just look and that's that. Leyna 22:11 Like, you walking into a pool party is like, right? Guest 22:17 Yes. Yeah. And it's Yeah, absolutely. It's, it's wonderful. Leyna 22:22 Okay. Have you ever found yourself looking at admiring whatever? A man's feet? No, never. No. Have you masturbated to like pictures of feet? Guest 22:37 Yes, absolutely. Leyna 22:39 Okay, what about hair on feet? Guest 22:43 Some foot fetishes love that. I happen to not. Okay. I do not no. It's not for me. That's not one of the things I enjoy. Leyna 22:52 And how about the size of the foot? Guest 22:54 For myself? I prefer a little bit, you know, larger like eight and a size eight. And for me that's Oh, that's what Leyna 23:05 I like larger feet. Guest 23:08 I do. A lot of men like the dainty, cute small ladies. Leyna 23:16 If you were to talk someone who maybe just privately has this kink or fetish any any words of wisdom on how to explore that? How to incorporate it more into their sexuality so that they can enjoy the most out of it. Guest 23:37 For the longest time thought there was something wrong with me. Why do I like feet what's going on? And that's why I went in search for grand answers. And when I was in my mid 30s And I realized okay, you know, I wanted to get rid of it. Is there a way I can trick my brain into not liking it anymore? Because I want to be like everyone else. And that didn't happen instead. I just felt that okay, I'm gonna embrace this. I'm not going to feel that it's a bad thing. It's it's just my thing. Everybody has their own thing and some some people's things is there's no thing right? So they don't have any type of they're just I guess, vanilla or whatever. Leyna 24:20 I don't have vanillas a flavor too nothing wrong with that. Guest 24:23 Exactly. And that's, and that's where the one thing about being a foot fetish is that you're more open to everybody's differences and what they enjoy and like, because you can't sit there and say, Oh, gee, you're a weirdo when I don't want to be called a weirdo for what I am. So I really am open to anybody's difference. That's what they like, as long as it's all consensual and people are, you know, both parties are consenting to it and they both enjoy what they're doing whatever it is. Go ahead have fun, which whichever way it is. Leyna 25:01 Thanks to mark and all of my guests for sharing their stories with me. In fact, I'm always looking for new guests so find me on Twitter at @LeynanguyenTV or simply go to our website consentingadultsshow.com And we'll get your story on the air. Okay, next time on consenting adults, someone finally explains why chastity is such a turn on for them and how it enhances their sexuality. Guest 25:26 So the other night she used a deep tissue massage. It's not really a vibrator because it's it's almost like a hammer drill. Oh, yeah, I know what those are. Yeah, so she put that up against the cage. And I last probably 90 seconds. Leyna 25:44 That's next time on consenting adults.
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