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In this episode of Consenting Adults with Leyna Nguyen, Mr. & Mrs. Sexton discover their wild side while in lockdown. Quarantine kink leads to sex, drugs, and wife-swapping. Their first experience as swingers were with the couple in episode 21, Married Swingers. See if their stories match up.
EP 8 Covid and Kink
Leyna: Welcome to a new week everyone Hope everyone's doing well. The West Coast unfortunately is covered in a blanket of smoke from all the wildfires out here it is awful. So I hope you and your family. You know the COVID locked down, it's actually been really nice out here in Los Angeles, especially because you can still go to restaurants a lot of them have been able to convert their sidewalks or parking lots into outdoor dining so it's been awesome being able to you know get back into the swing of things. No pun intended. But now, with the awful air quality is like orange outside it's so gross. We can't do that so I know many of us feel like we're on this lockdown again because you have to stay inside. So what are you doing to stay inside you turn to social media of course to kill your time. If you haven't seen it yet. I've joined, tick tock. And I want to apologize to everyone whom I secretly privately rolled my eyes out for posting silly videos on Tik Tok because I'm now bad person, but I'm having so much fun, don't judge me. So if you're over 14, and you have a tick tock account, trying to find me there, Lina when TV, want to give a shout out to Bruce Baker and Robert DeMartino for responding to one of my tic toc posting they to feel fabulous over 50. I've also noticed that a lot of swinging couples have joined, or should I say joint Twitter accounts, where they have like the regular normal one for everyone else to see and then they have like a swinging Twitter account. So they both are on it. So I want to welcome, sweet, and sexy. Rick, and Rachel also Gianni jibe aka The OC Slayer, new followers of app consent, adults, on Twitter, also a shout out to Joe castonzo who has been a lot more active, talking to us on Twitter, who has now twice tweeted that he wants me to interview and adult female Filmstar on how COVID has affected her work. So if you're an adult film star, get in contact with me and maybe we'll both make Joe's dreams come true. Speaking of COVID, a lot of people in the lifestyle say it's been awful for them, obviously because just like everything else, it's kind of, You know, come to a halt, especially, you know, when you talk about sharing bodily fluids with other people. However, the guests on my show today have COVID to thank for getting them to come out of their shell, shall we say, Because of the lockdown. They started doing a couple of interesting things. One of them was they got into the lifestyle and their first experience unlike many first experiences was everything they thought, and then some. And you squirted more than I've ever seen you squirt before that might made a puddle on the floor. It was literally slashing, did you warn your house guests that this happens, no. Get ready. This is Consenting Adults.
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Leyna: Well my guest today have a very interesting story. They are 49 and 50, empty nesters, from the great state of Indiana. It is Jack and Julie Sexton. Hey, Wait a second. Are those really your names.
Guest: Well, that's a no, that's a no. Those are actually not our names but, but as you can understand.
Leyna: I completely understand stay anonymous here, right, and I really appreciate that and I appreciate you coming on to talk to me. So, Julie is 50 Jack is 49 This is the second marriage for both of them. And like I said they're empty nesters so they're, you know home alone. And the interesting part about this story is that of all the awful things that have come from COVID This is not such an awful thing, especially not for this couple. COVID happened and what happened to you guys, you were like stuck at home with just each other to look at.
Guest: Yeah that's it. You know COVID happened we kind of locked down in March. And we both work from home. And so, you know our, we had really good sex lives beforehand. On a scale of one to 10 we were probably at an eight, nine and then and then the lockdown happened, and we're at home, and we're having more sex, and we went from an eight to a 10.
Leyna: You know, I think you should be a little more generous with that, because from what I see. You went from like eight to 80
Guest: All right, Well, this is before Twitter now we.
Leyna: So this is what's so interesting about this story is that you guys were pretty much just a regular normal couple Guest: right yeah and we still are. Well, in our in our regular lives. Yes we are. So then you kinda have this secret life, right after it went to 10, the missus went and did something silly like created this Twitter account, no actually I did.
Leyna: You did.
Guest: Yes and then I told her about it.
Leyna: Oh, okay so we're going to let people find you, so at the end of the show we're gonna tell you where to look for the sexy couple, but you went and created a Twitter account. What did you do with this Twitter account.
Guest: We have never used Twitter before and I started looking, you know, one day, just bored, you know, COVID, and just found a different world on Twitter that I didn't even know existed. And it was very sex positive a lot of it was crazy stuff I had no idea was on there. So, you know one day I was like hey let's start an account, and we figured, you know, it's just something to look at maybe be voyeurs watch other people see what they're doing and who knows, maybe we'll post a few naughty pictures of ourselves and. And then, it didn't take very long at all before we were just creating and posting full blown porn of ourselves.
Leyna: Wait a second. How long is not long at all.
Guest: What probably the first day.
Leyna: Oh, wait. So, you created Twitter to be able to privately, look at other people's stuff, the sexy stuff that kind of the darker side of Twitter right, yes. And then someone got a wild hair, and decided to do what what was what was your first post. Was it a picture or a video.
Guest: I think it was a video I think we posted a video I don't really remember but it was, if it is the one I'm thinking of it was, it was pretty out there.
Leyna: Okay, now this what month did you do this what month did you start
Guest: we're, we started Twitter, at the end of June.
Leyna: Oh, I mean this is very new to two months ago,
Guest: and I don't know when you're going to air this but yeah.
Leyna: Okay, so then you started Twitter, you post a video of yourself doing what
Guest: you had to ask. Let's just say, Well, I mean, we're not trying to be PG here right.
Leyna: No, I don't I don't even know who you guys are.
Guest: So, we posted a picture of our video of a cam shot. We were having sex, and it come shot, and, and yeah, like we put the whole thing out there.
It was such a turn on recording ourselves we had never done that before. And we've almost been what we've been together almost 10 years. Yeah. And so, recording ourselves like I instantly like it. It turned me on. And I'm like, wow, I wasn't expecting that.
Leyna: Now did it turn you on. While you were being recorded or did it turn you on afterward to see what you did, Guest: actually both yeah both.
Leyna: So this little couple from Indiana, easy with the old they're suddenly started making your own porn.
Guest: Pretty much, yeah why not.
Leyna: Wow, so when you first posted that video did you have a lot of followers, or was it after that video did you start
Guest: we had zero followers, and we posted a video, and we, we started building a following, like immediately, you know, two months later, we're, I don't know, close to what 3500 followers. It took off apparently people on Twitter like to see porn.
Leyna: Well and, but the interesting thing is, there's a lot of it out there, right. Oh yeah, there's, and yet, and yet you're still getting a lot of followers and a lot of engagement exhausts so there's as much porn as there is out there on Twitter. There are even more people wanting to see it.
And I think people want to see real porn or not real people, real people, not actors, no no no faking like you can tell if, if a woman is faking.
Guest: And so I think that, I think that's why we're getting a lot of followers, and we also engage with people, and that's a big deal. And we, something that we've learned, you know, pretty quickly is,
you know, people aren't just looking for porn. They're looking for connection. And it's just like anything else, so you mix that in with the porn, and, yeah, you get a following.
Leyna: Okay. This isn't even the most of their story, you guys. Oh no, that's it, that's just a part of it. Yeah, it goes, we go deeper, so to speak. Yeah,
how what what happened from posting porn. What happened next, Okay well hold on, hold on, I gotta take this jacket off.
Guest: It is getting warm in here isn't it.
Leyna: What happened next.
Guest: Well, as you can imagine our DMS started filling up quickly. And although a lot of them were, you know, messages we really didn't need to answer. We actually, we did, we actually did answer a lot of the messages that we got and, surprisingly, It was just regular people saying hi and saying, you know, they appreciated. You know what we were, you know, posting and, you know, just wanted to introduce themselves and we actually had some really good conversations with people. And then one couple. We actually kind of hit it off with them, we had a lot of back and forth with them and it only took what a week, week and a half of my talk you guys move fast. And so this other couple, they are they've actually been in the lifestyle for I believe a couple years, so they were experienced. We were not, we had a we had talked about it, we fantasized about it like a lot of couples do, but we had never done anything like that before. We decided, you know, it'd be kind of cool if we met up with them, and at some point that we didn't realize that and so yeah, we really when we were talking, we were, you know, we're thinking maybe in a few months, it would go down. But then one day they messaged and said hey you know what we've got some time off, this, this next weekend, how about we drive up to you guys.
Leyna: did you find someone close to you.
Guest: No, actually, they lived about what 10--11 hours away.
Leyna: Man, you guys must have some pretty good videos up, drove. They drove over 10 hours to come see you,
Guest: they did. And it was crazy by the time they got here. We had been chatting with them for, you know, so long, you know, we're so often that we really felt like we were all like good friends by the time we actually met them in person, which was like a week and a half. I mean it's not like we were chatting for months, but you know we okay.
Leyna: But hold on a second. Mr and Mrs. Do you realize that if this was your children talking to you, you would think they're nuts right, you would be scolding or children saying there is no way your close friends with someone you've been chatting with for a week and a half. You know that right.
Guest: Well, with them we wouldn't want to know.
Leyna: They probably don't want to know this about mom and dad.
Leyna. Okay, so this other couple drives you know 1010 and a half hours to come meet, meet up with you. I mean, to me it sounds awkward, but you're saying it wasn't, walk me through the meeting,
Guest: well beforehand we talked about it, and we all agreed that there was no guarantee of sex, no hard expectations, which we've come to find out that most people in the lifestyle, have that attitude, just because you meet with a couple does not necessarily mean you're going to have sex with them. And in fact, you're gonna have to pay, you're gonna have to pay back the gas money, buddy. Well, I will say there was a little pressure knowing how far they drove. But we kind of we were ready and we knew that, you know, we had already built a rapport with them, and unless they were totally different in person. We were pretty comfortable. It turns out that they were just as awesome in person as they were when we were chatting with them.
Leyna:; Nice. So, was there like a date set up I mean did you go to dinner. Don't leave me hanging in here Mr
Guest: remember we're still dealing with COVID So, we're not as long locked down as we were in, in March and April, we're still trying to stay inside. So we really kind of just stayed in our house for the next three days, and had wild sex, the whole time.
Leyna: ok so they knocked at your door. Well I mean what happened I mean, how can I, I'm trying to understand how you let two strangers and really they're strangers, other than they've been chatting with you right yeah they're people who tell your heart is kind of crazy. Yeah. So you let them into your home and, and, honestly, walk me through it, was it, so they knocked at the door, and did you make finger sandwiches, that's all I want to know.
Guest: Hugged each other, we just each other laughed. Show them the spare bedroom, I had set it all up with like snacks and I had gifts for them, were very good hosts
Leyna: My gosh. Hey, if I ever decide to swing.
Guest: We will take very good care of you. Yeah, So we just instantly just we connected we laughed. He was really, really funny. He's a very tall man he's a very colorful man, and he just had us rolling from the beginning. And yeah, it was, right, right from the start it was we just knew we were going to have a great time, regardless of what happened we were going to have just a like stay at home vacation with two awesome people. Yeah,
Leyna: okay. Now, you say that you guys have never done anything like this before. Right.
Guest: I haven't as part of a married couple, we're both on our second marriages.
Leyna: Second time is always better, by the way,
Guest: I agree.
Leyna: And Julie, you actually had a threesome with your previous marriage.
Guest: I did. So, but we had never done this kind of thing together. No.
Leyna: So then how does something like that begin, you know so you show them their spare bedroom. You must have made some awesome freaking snacks.
Guest: Well so we got to know each other we talked, we laughed. I'm sure we were all probably a little buzzed. We had set up a massage table in our bedroom, and we thought, like, we're gonna give them each a massage, and just, like, let them unwind, relax. After driving for 10 o'clock or so, yeah, find the way I would be driving from California. So yeah, they took showers and just got comfortable, and I took him in the bedroom, and started to give him a massage. I really, really just wanted it to be a massage. I was trying to be very therapeutic. Yeah. And so, that's what happened, and he was having a very hard time, I'm laying on his stomach, just like. As you can imagine you could probably figure out why. So he had blind because, yeah, so he had to flip over. And it was just, there was a lot of chemistry and I was just like, I, you know, this was new to us, and I didn't really know the rules we hadn't talked about the rules and so, you know he would kind of come up off the table towards me and I would push them back down. And this went on for a couple of minutes.
Leyna: Oh, you were playing hard to get.
Guest: Yes, really was, I just, I didn't want to be disrespectful or, or, you know, cross any lines so I just wanted to kind of take it easy. And we did, we did kiss, and then I was. And then I was like okay it's time to switch back out. Yeah, so we, we switched and then
Leyna: so well wait. What was the MR join while you were given this other man of massage.
Guest: Well I was in the other room, with, with her with his partner right doing what we were actually just talking. Oh, okay. And we really, I, we had no idea what was going on in the other room. And actually, that was kind of hot. I'll admit, it turned me on. And then you guys switch, and then we switched it was my turn to give her a massage. And I did it was strictly a massage. I was, you know, thinking gosh, this for a woman's got to be tired after driving so long so I wasn't really expecting anything to happen we we really truly just wanted to give them massages. Julian, and he came into the room, maybe 10 minutes later, and, and then we all the three of us started massaging her, and, and then from there it went full blown sex, right, right, then in there.
Leyna: So it was the group massage thing that did it. Yeah, yeah, it was hot, it was really high. And was it full swap. Guest: Yeah. I mean it's a pretty juicy story so you should probably backtrack and maybe tell her what happened on the massage table. This isn't a PG podcast so.
Leyna: So, wait a second, are you really guys the same people who run this Twitter account because
Guest: that's right. So, yeah, Julia is a squirter, I don't know if we mentioned that before but, and
Guest: and we can also say that we had Viagara, all of us very well for women, by the way.
Leyna: Oh really, I've, yeah. Tell me about that. So you, you also take the Viagra pill.
Guest: I did years ago. At one time, and it was amazing, and it doesn't work for all women. But we happen to have some and we're like, you know what, this is a special weekend so why not,
and Julie would never let me take it before because, well, I've always heard all the time and are we supporting you. But we had this other couple coming and we're like, hey, we it was sitting in our drawer for two years. We're like, hey, let's take it, preparation, like when it hits. Oh my gosh. Yeah, so it kind of
Leyna: NO NO NO NO NO NO NO. What does it do for women.
Guest: So, probably maybe within 25 minutes 30 minutes. It hits, and like, it just, everything is swollen down there and like, it's like you're just so turned on, huh, it's, it's unbelievable. Like it's incredible.
Leyna: Wow, okay, so. Oh my goodness, so your, your party drug is Viagra. You're all on it. Yes. What happened on the massage table I like I'm so I don't follow what, how did you guys all started having sex.
Guest: So we were all rubbing on her, and I actually started kissing her. And are you bisexual, um, you know, I've had to know. I've had a few women that I've been attracted to, and I have been with other women, you know, throughout the years but i don't know i It's weird, it's like I'm bi curious, I wouldn't actually say I'm bisexual. By flexible, maybe yeah that's a good. It's a good term. So yeah, so I started kissing her, and I just felt it, and I think that really probably, you know, turned the guys on and, and it just, it got really hot.
And meanwhile, he and I were taking turns going down on her right. Julie was skilled. So, and then he came around and started fingering you and you squirted more than I've ever seen you squirt before that money made a puddle on the floor. It was literally splashing.
Leyna: did you warn your house guests that this happens?
Guest: No. Well, they might have seen it on Twitter, though. Everybody's seen it on Twitter. Oh, killer episode but yeah.
So then from there we ended up on the bed, and right and yeah and then it was a full swap, but we were all
together, but we were all together on the same bed, and afterwards, we high fived each other. And we came out, and then we socialized for a while, normal friends. Friends.
Leyna: Wow. And that was day one.
uest: It was day one, day two, then it was like, All right, we you know, we didn't really know how to get things started, we're new to this, remember, she actually pulled out some, I don't know, sex game cards. I guess this is like a something that might be like an icebreaker, right, I'll admit, we were kind of bored. After it was just kind of, it was kind of a silly game, and after about, you know three hands of this game. Julie surprised all of us by saying, can we just, Well, I'm saying what you said, I'll go ahead and say it because I love saying it because it's this is like the most proud I've ever been of my wife, and she just threw the cards down and said, Can we just skip to the part where you guys tie me up and say,
Leyna: Have you have you tied her up before. Did you know she liked that.
Guest: Yeah, that's something that we've done in our own personal sex life. Beforehand, in our chat before we, they even got here, we had talked about all the things that we were comfortable with. So we, we kind of had a game plan, you know before they even got here. So, being tied up was one of the things that we said yeah let's do it. So am I, am I allowed to say that we were,
Lena: you're allowed to say anything you want.
Guest: Okay, well we are high too , high to
levels so that made it even more fun. But, so they took it, they took we all went into the bedroom, and they tied me up, hands, legs, and I've never experienced like three people just pleasing me, and it was everything, and more. I have never felt such pleasure in my entire life. Wow, beyond words. I, it's something I will remember for the rest of my life, Leyna: and something you'll do again.
Guest: Oh absolutely, I hope so.
Leyna: Yeah, so far that's been your only experience is with this other couple.
Guest: Oh, since then, yeah, we're not not for lack of trying, we have met with a few people since then but nobody that we had chemistry with so
there has to be a connection. You know I'm not just out to try to have sex with a bunch of people. And if we have, you know, if this happens once a year, that's okay, but it has to be the right people.
Leyna: Interestingly enough, and I only found this out right before we started recording this interview is that in a couple of hours I'm actually interviewing the couple who drove to meet you. Yeah, I have no idea how that happened. That's wild. Isn't it, I mean I'm like that's really weird.
Guest: Yeah, it actually we did not know they had set it up with you until we reached out to them and said, Hey guys, we're going to go on his podcast, and we're going to tell them what do you guys think, and they told us, oh well that's funny we're going on the same podcast
Leyna: so hilarious. So, and but then it also it tells me that in like, even like, like in my past life when I was a newscaster as large of an industry as it is, it's still a small world. Oh yeah, that's right. And it's kind of the same thing with the lifestyle that yeah there's a ton of people in it, and yet somehow, it's still a small world. I mean, I'll be talking to someone and they'll bring someone up and I'm like wait a second, I've talked to them. And it's the strangest wildest thing but I'm going to be able to get the other side of the story later today. What do you think this has done for your sex life, your marriage, your relationship.
Guest: Well, it's actually So for one, and I know your first guest on your first episode, Mike talked a lot about this, but before you go into anything like this your marriage has to be solid, really solid. And if not, then yeah, You do something like this, it, it could really screw things up. Julia and I are our marriage is as strong as anybody's, and we didn't get into this, to fix anything, or because anything was missing out of our sex life, we only did this to enhance it, to, to do something different that we had never done. And so afterwards, you know, we really, we decided we really didn't enjoy it, and we said hey, We're gonna try to do this again we're looking forward to having more experiences, and exploring everything that the lifestyle has to offer. Awesome. And by the way not to go back to our experience but just to let you know on day three, I got tied up. And really, it's a good story. Maybe, maybe we'll let the other couple talk about that story but I should talk about leading up to it though.
Leyna: What happened, nice. Tell me what happened.
Guest: ok, so again Viagara again edibles, and she was actually getting cleaned up, and we were just in the living room hanging out, and the Viagara hit me and I was across the way in a chair in the corner. I'm actually pretty shy. I would never typically do this in front of anyone but like I started masturbating, right in the chair, like I was feeling myself. And so, I was putting on a show for two guys, and before I knew it. I looked over, they both had their cogs out, and they, they were very excited, and I just closed my eyes I really like I would just every so often I would look over and see them. And then she comes out, and she just kneels down, and you take it from there.
She started stroking both of us at the same time. And then Julie came over and join the action and the women, both gave us blow jobs, not, not our significant others but swapped. And, and then for the set right beside each other on the couch. Yeah, and then from there, they said, All right, Jack It's time to go in the bedroom, you know, you're missing
the whole world right here. Well you squirted all over his face. Yeah I drenched him it looked like he had just like came out of a foul, everybody's already heard about the squirt.
Leyna: I was just I was just about to say, Oh great, now they're starting to sound like the old married couple until the squirting thing came back.
Guest: So anyway, then we go in and I get tied up, but my, my experience was a little different because we let her practice her BDSM thing,
Leyna: it's the other woman.
Guest: Yes, the other woman, she, it's something that she is very interested in in becoming a dominatrix. And me, I'm up for anything, so I said yeah tie me up and go ahead and wit me I don't care. And it's like, you know, I didn't dislike it, but I did learn something about myself. I actually enjoy that more with my wife doing it. And I'm not really sure why. I think it's because I'm more turned on by my wife, showing a different side of her that I'm not used to seeing. And I didn't know that I thought, and it's I'm not at all saying I didn't enjoy it. I thought it was really cool, but I guess it just wasn't as much of a turn on as I expected, but the turn on was really with being blindfolded, so I couldn't see anything. And my wife, and the other man, were going at it in the same room, you could hear them while I'm getting flogged. And that whole experience was like something I'll never forget. It was amazing.
Leyna: You know, for newbies, you guys like hit a home run because it doesn't always go that way you know that right, we've been told. We realized that now. And it all goes back to planning. See that guest room all those snacks that you made plans forgot to mention the snacks included Viagra and edibles.
Guest: It also started with just being open to the whole idea, not many people would even entertain the idea of having a couple, they just met on Twitter, come to their house for three days, that's kind of crazy, and we look back and we're like, wow, you know that I guess that could have gone badly, but then again, how, how, what could have happened.
Leyna: Well they could have killed you.
Guest: But, yeah, but but they didn't.
No, that that never entered our minds, and also we, at that point before they got here, I believe like I followed her on, on other social medias. And so like you can you can really see someone's life, and learn a lot about them that way. Yeah, I really felt comfortable
with them as long as we're planning on seeing them again, we might drive down to where they live, next time.
Leyna: Now that we've been teasing people for you know, over half an hour, where can everyone find you on Twitter.
Guest: We are the sextons on Twitter and we are @thesextons00. (the sextons may be taking time off from Twitter now)
Leyna: Don't blame it on me whatever you see on that Twitter. Enter at your own risk. That's right. It'll be interesting to see where the sextons are. Once the world gets back to as normal as can be. Alright you guys if you haven't already done so please leave us a rating a review on Apple podcasts. In fact, let me know that you did so we can give you a little love. And next time on Consenting Adults. What's better than a swinging lady? Why two, of course,
Guest: we love giving pleasure, and part of part of the frontal lifestyle is like, I don't enjoy penetration at all. So Rachel, you know, If I were to strap on Rachel's you know taking the strap. But when we play sometimes Rachel gets flirt with overla
which, which I love it I love having that power and I love getting to wear it so that's kind of a fringe benefit for us now.
Leyna: Okay, I have to ask, please. That's next time on Consenting Adults.
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