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Rarer than a unicorn is the cuckquean in the lifestyle. Taylor talks about how she enjoys degradation and denial and what turns her on about seeing her partner with someone else beyond the compersion aspect. She describes herself as a submissive first, an unapologetic black-only slut second, and a cuckquean third. Leyna's favorite take from this interview is why Cuckquean isn't spelled cuckQUEEN.
EP 049 - The Elusive Cuckquean
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That was when she told me that I could cum and I definitely did numerous times. Do you think that jealousy has anything to do with the turn on? It's definitely a factor. Despite being bisexual I don’t go down on women very often. It's not my favorite thing to do. But that experience may have changed my mind. And while this is happening, what's your guy doing? I have no idea because my face was sat on. The typical…she has better pussy than you type comments. You know. Actually no, I don't know okay. So and then she got on top of me when he finished. Sat on my face and I cleaned her out. It was definitely …wasn't expecting that. But did it turn you on? Absolutely, absolutely. My partner was obviously a black male. The wife he was with was a black female in her cuck is white. Oh. So they're in a whole new dynamic themselves that doesn't get talked about a ton in-- there's not a lot of them. Get ready. This is consenting adults.
(Podcast Show Open)
Leyna: My guest today is a first for consenting adults. Back in episode 45 I talked to a cuckolddress about the cuckolding lifestyle. And we kinda put the word out there that we needed to find a cuckquean. Now you guys have probably heard of unicorns by now, right? Rare hard to find the lifestyle. What is harder to find is a cuckquean. And she found me. Whenever I talk to guests I always ask for a little information so that I'd have something to do an introduction. This is what Taylor wrote. She says I am a submissive first, an unapologetic black only slut second, And a cuckquean third. Taylor. We've got a lot to talk about. When did you discover something other than vanilla sex.
Guest: As soon as I started having sex so really how old fourteen or fifteen that is young and even then you were doing or wanting more than just regular vanilla sex. Absolutely what more did you want. You know at this point. I don't really remember. It was probably you know the standard like spicy vanilla is what I like to call it so I. The light bondage. The light impact play type stuff.
Leyna: And the partners that you had were they were they all for it?
Guest: Well actually. I was in an almost eight year relationship starting when I was fourteen. Fifteen years old.
Leyna: Wow that's is a long time for that age –it’s a longtime today for anybody really but, is it when you spend that much time together you probably were more comfortable exploring things?
Guest: Yeah but we were never quite on the same page. He had some different kinks than I did. But we did explore together.
Leyna: What kind of things did you, did you do?
Guest: Power exchange dynamics heavier impact play those, were the two big ones.
Leyna: So it sounds like you you really got into the BDSM thing. So that's why you're a submissive.
Guest: I I am. I did go through a period a little less than a year ago where I thought maybe I was a switch so I- topped a couple of men type situations that that was not something that I was really into. I did it. Because I'm a people pleaser.
Leyna: Ok, So for anyone who’s super vanilla , has no idea what topping a man is, explain it.
Guest: I'm not a dominant person. But I was dominant with these men. In one or two occasions did include pegging. It's not for me. The idea of it is hot. The light I can't do it all
Leyna: And then so again for the super vanilla person who may not know what pegging is…
Guest: Pegging is using a strap on for anal or oral sex with a person mostly men.
00:05:14 - 00:10:07
Leyna: So what you're saying is you put on a strap and got on top of your or behind or however you guys do it.
Guest Either. It all works.
Leyna: So you didn’t enjoy it?
Guest; Like there was nothing, nothing for me if anything I was the super concerned mother figure over here. Like are you okay. Are you sure your every ten seconds. It was more stress inducing for me than anything else.
Leyna: Okay. So that's when you realize you really are just a submissive okay. Then let's move along to your next step in your evolution you said you're an unapologetic black only slut. And how did that start?
Guest: That's a really difficult question to answer. I didn't notice it . It was actually pointed out to me when my relationship hit a rocky spot in. We did one of the things that you're not supposed to do which is open your relationship in one of these are experiences ahead in little from relationship was with a black man that I grew up with after that experience. Everyone that I was with after that point happened also be black.
Leyna: You weren't consciously, right? so you were’t consciously choosing only to be with black men. But that's what happened. What was it about that experience that you liked so much?
Guest: It was a mind-blowing experience. Unlike anything else I had ever had a see.
Leyna: Now I've heard other women describe it that way but like I'm trying to get to the why. Why was it so good?
Guest: I think it's just an energy thing. I think the people I have sexually connected with the strongest have been black men that have a specific energy. Sure it's not all because I've definitely had experiences that we're not like that. I would say that. In general there’s just this energy I hadn’t had before.
Leyna: But how much of that energy is doing something that maybe in the back of your mind you think is taboo that interracial thing?
Guest: It is probably that to some extent because I did grow up in middle of rural Alabama and I grew up extremely conservative Christian to the point that you know …
Leyna: Anyone anyone that didn't sound or talk like you was like out of the question.
Guest: Right, but I don't know how to describe what exactly is behind that energy. It's just something when it happens. You're like oh it all makes sense now.
Leyna: Okay so let's then move into this thing that I wanna learn about and it's so hard to find someone who's into it and someone who's willing to talk about it first of all for, again, the people who don't know what is a cuckquean?
Guest: In simple terms It is a female cuckold. So a female that likes to watch their male partner with other women cuckquean does not necessarily have the language behind it or the additional language that the cuckold side does so like where with cuckold there was kind of the distinguishing terms of like stag vixen dynamics that exist so like stags kind of started as cucks. That didn't have any element of humiliation degradation. Female led relationship aspects. They were just men that light to watch their women get fucked by other men. Cuckqueans can vary anywhere from just women that like to watch their men with other women and then the opposite side of the spectrum. There is the heavy which you think of when you think of cock type relationships where there is a lot of degradation humiliation a lot of denial.
Leyna: And where are you on that spectrum?
Guest: I am on the latter side of that spectrum.
Leyna: K, So you like the degradation.
Leyna: Explain what you're talking about.
Gest: Well I would say that It does. Go back to me describing myself as a submissive. so I was very into degradation on that end In scenes and stuff in my power dynamic relationships like powershare relationships so like that Just kind of naturally transitioned into wanting that while my male partner was with a female also.
00:10:07 - 00:15:00
Leyna: So you're gonna have to set the scene for me so like you are in the room watching your guy have sex with another woman?
Gest: I have not had any in-person experiences. All of mine have been long distance through video calls so it does make my experiences a bit more niche. If you will. I guess the best way to describe it is just to go ahead and put my first real experience out there and like describe how it went might partner is a bull for a couple. And they're in different states than I am and the couple that he was with the cuck in the relationship was on a business trip so my partner and the wife were having dinner and drinks and a play date that night and they video called both of us oh while they had dinner, while they …
Leyna: Hold on, was this a zoom call?
Guest: Part of it it was. We had some technical difficulties in the middle of it. So part of it was on snapchat. So I had several complications about halfway or so
Leyna: But it didn’t stop you right?
Guest: It didn't stop, it didn't mess up the energy of it because they just parlayed into the degradation aspect because it was all on my end for the most part. It gave them something to go off of with “Oh, So you're too fucking stupid even to figure out how to get this to work okay. I guess we're you know you're not that worried about it.” So it more kind of just feeding off of that energy also you know…
Leyna: You're over there. You're pissed off. You're zoom doesn't work but you're also turned on.
Guest: Pretty much. To give even more context to this my partner was obviously a black male. The wife he was with was as a black female and her cuck is white.
Guest: So they're in a whole niche dynamic themselves. That doesn't get talked about a ton in --there's not a lot of—it definitely fed into the race play side of things and that was it was a very intense experience.
Leyna: Okay hold on. Let go back to the experience. You kind of glossed right over it so your guy is with someone else's wife you're on a video call. Described to me what was happening.
Guest: We watched them have dinner and listened to their discussions like we weren’t even there.
Guest: Right, so and the husband and I. When they took everything to the bedroom that was where most of the comments had started. You know the degrading the typical-- She has a better pussy than you type comments. Like you know..
Leyna: Actually no I don't know. Okay.
00:15:00 - 00:20:04
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Leyna: Are you watching your guy go down on her and they say things to you or what’s going on?
Guest: Yes, she did go down on him. She gave him a foot job, then she was giving him head. I remember distinctly one of the comments being, “She lives way closer than you do. So why would I ever take the time to get head from a white bitch like you. That is one comment distinctly. I remember because it drove me crazy being able to see what… sure he has said comments like that before but not while actively being with someone else. Most of it was targeted towards both me and her husband so there were a lot of “neither of you are here and neither of you can do any of this as well as both of us can. Our energy meshes so much better there weren't a ton that were made specifically towards either one of us. They did a very good job of targeting both of us so a lot of targeting both of us..
Leyna: A very good job of insulting and degrading both of you.
Guest: A lot of the enjoyment that I know I got from it was the fact that me and the cuck also were just kind of sitting there like you know trying to not interact with each other but we could see each other's arousal and also angst to the situation.
Leyna: Now while you're watching are you, are you masturbating or no?
Guest: NO, we were both told that we cannot do anything so we had to sit there and suffer.
Leyna: Oh. you’re gonna sit here. You’re gonna watch it. And You're gonna like it dammit!
Leyna: And you did.
Guest: Very much so.
Leyna: How about other situations I mean cuz that is kind of a unique situation, when you're dealing with a cuckoldcouple. I guess on a more regular vanilla cuckquean activity, what would happen?
Guest: They’re on the bed. It started with us all three playing together and then he told me to go to the couch and he said that he was going to get good head from someone who knew what she was doing because she has way more experience than I do, and knows exactly how he likes it so they start making out and then she gives him head. The entire time he's telling me that I am definitely not e3ver going to be as good as she is. Things progress and he starts fucking her and she is significantly smaller than I am so she starts telling me that she has a better ass and she told me to get on the bed and then she got on top of me when he finished sat on my face and I cleaned her out. It was I definitely wasn't expecting it.
Leyna: Did it turn you on?
Guest: Absolutely absolutely.
Leyna: What about it turned you on or what is going through your head while you're doing this.
Guest: I was so worked up. Because I’m like at least getting something. Sure it may not have been me. But I'm getting something now. Despite being bisexual I don't go down on women very often. It's not my favorite thing to do but that experience may have changed my mind.
Leyna: And while this is happening, what's your guy doing?
Guest: I have no idea my cuz face was sat on.
Leyna: Oops. I can’t see anything! But did you get release from it?
Guest: Yeah, while this was going on she was using a vibrator on me. And when I got done, that was when she told me that I could cum. And I definitely did numerous times.
00:20:04 - 00:25:03
Leyna: Do you think that jealousy has anything to do with the turn on.
Guest: It's definitely a factor. But again why I describe myself as a submissive. I I don't really have cuck angst or like the jealousy angst that goes on. I describe it as submissive angst specifically when it's with a more dominant woman that he's with. What goes through my head is that. I'm like I'm being denied giving pleasure. The ONE thing that I enjoy doing is pleasing other people. There's a mental thing that doesn't like that someone is --that the person I'm with is receiving pleasure from someone who is not as much of a people pleaser is I am. So there's this tug of war my head of I enjoy watching this but I wanna do it because I think I can do a better. But you're telling me I can't type thing-- and so is just this constant cycle of submissive angst.
Leyna: Do you think you could ever be in a relationship where your guy won't do this?
Leyna: So this is you and this is the only way you're gonna have it.
Guest: Yeah I would not be sexually satisfied if any of my big Three's were not in my relationship dynamics.
Leyna: And even better if you've got all three right.
Guest: Oh most definitely. I will probably have to have all three. I will most likely only ever be in a relationship with a black man that is also non monogamous and is okay with me being non monogamous and is a more dominant person than I am.
Leyna: Do you have any fantasies. Or I mean what is your ideal setup?
Guest: An in-person version of the video call with someone that I am in a long term relationship with, so that that personal dynamic could be even more ingrained into the scene.
Leyna: You know. I'm glad you brought that up because I think this is an emotional thing rather than a physical thing. Like when people hear about sex and different kinks they think it's all physical but when you're getting into power dynamics and this kind of stuff I think it's much more emotional. So you would get way more out of it if it was someone you loved.
Leyna: Right? So then your ideal thing is you in a room with the cuck-- both watching your partners play.
Leyna: And then at the end of it--would there be any interaction?
Guest: I think it could go either way. I don't have a strong opinion on that.
Leyna: But don't you need a release or are you ok not getting anything out of it?
Guest: I’m completely Okay not having a release, at least not right then. Like I'm fine with being told. No you're just gonna have to wait.
Leyna: Because you-- you kind of put that in the bank in your head right? It goes into a bank and then the next time you kind of withdraw that and kind of feed on that right?
Leyna: Is there any interest, for instance, in this scenario where you and a cuck are watching your partners play with each other. What if they told you to have sex with the cuck. Would you do it and would that be a turn on at all?
Guest: Oh wouldn't it be turn on? Probably not but would I…
Leyna: But You would do it. Of course you would, you’re a submissive.
Guest: I would probably do it if I was told to do it. Now I’m intrigued.
Leyna: But I mean the cream pie clean up. You weren't-- that's not something that you thought of either.
Guest: No it wasn't.
Leyna: And it turned you on.
Guest: It does.
Leyna: Big time.
Leyna: See? Were just opening up more doors for your Taylor just opening up a lot more doors for you all right. I have a question for you that you probably don't know the answer to this. Do you have any idea why cuckquean is spelled with an a. and not queen with an ee.
Guest: Yes actually I do.
Leyna: Oh you do?
Guest: I believe quean spelled that way was the older version of a wench in old English so being called like a quean was an ugly older woman that had a cheating husband or a husband that was not in love with her. They just added “cuck” in front of it to give that meaning to it.
Leyna: It's not royalty.
Quest: Actually e-e has a different meaning, because there are cuckqueens that have an e e and they are all long-term feminized or sissified male cuckolds.
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Leyna: Oh! I'm learning all kinds of stuff today. So cuckqueen with two E’s refers to a male.
Guest: Yes, that is into sissification or feminization.
Leyna: This is awesome because I love grammar. I love spelling. This is amazing. All right Taylor thank you so much. Your story is super interesting. And I'm hoping that it'll inspire other cuckqueans out there to come out and talk about their experience because everyone's place on the spectrum is different and one cuckquean can be very different from another so I would love to hear from more I mean, do you know other cuckqueans or no.
Guest: I know of other cuckqueans on social media. There doesn't seem to be much interest in having a larger community that interacts with each other. Unlike the male cuck side of the community like they all have come together and formed their own little corner of the internet that there's a lot of them that are close tight friends. You don't see that in cuckquean side.
Leyna: If you'd like to connect with Taylor you can find her on twitter @satindollipop or just look on our page @consentadults: she's one of her followers. And we welcome any other cuckqueans out there willing to come forward and share their story. Okay next time on consenting adults, they were high school school sweethearts. Had never been with anyone else and then they discovered the lifestyle and have done a totally one eighty.
Guest: I'd mean we've done soft swaps full swaps swaps at clubs Swaps at the house, yeah, gone out at parties we’ve had orgies—orgy on a vanilla cruise. That was kind of crazy.
Leyna: Oh. That's next time on Consenting Adults.
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