Ep 34 Sex Workers Need Love Too

Porn Star Brittany Andrews talks about sex work, why it should be decriminalized, how sex workers fit into the lifestyle and how to safely navigate the industry.  She also discusses work sex vs. pleasure sex, the biggest mistakes men make in bed, and the options women have to take care of "down there."

EP 34 – Sex Workers Need Love Too
Transcription
 
0:01
(Sizzle Reel)
 
The older I got I’m like eh if it's going to my ass I like them to be big, but if it's going in my pussy, it's like, not so much, really. Yeah, you think it was the other way around. He's into T girls-- transgender. Uh huh. How can you be a sex worker for 30 years and not get frickin bored. Right. I'm like, right, I totally get it that you're into T girls now it's like you've been in the business, how many years, like there's a certain level of like, okay, what's the next thing. Do you ever orgasm when you're having work sex, oh all the time. I mean, really, yeah, yeah, your average porn star is going to be probably around $1,000 an hour, right so of your on average porn stars are going to be around $3,000 an hour, your average local sex worker in the Midwest is probably going to be 150 to $300 for an hour. The prices range across the world typically based upon the notoriety of the posing I way prefer anal sex now, because just that gentle sex you know silver can be just so boring because I'll have a neuro association of it as being worked sex, you know, so if you shove something really big in my ass it's like, oh, this is entertaining. Oh, yeah, I feel that I feel that yeah exactly right.
If you aren't gonna fuck your friends you know do it after you've had some experience. Just having sex with, kind of in a safe environment and I think that's what a sex worker provides is a safe environment, you can tell the bitch to go when you want to. Get ready. This is consenting adults.
 
(Podcast Show Open)
 
2:20
Leyna:             Alright, she's an adult industry icon with over 30 years of experience in the adult industry. That's a long time to survive an industry that can be kind of rough. Yeah, you may look at her and say she's just another pretty face. Wrong. She's very well read. She's not afraid to get into politics. But for this program we're going to talk about the fun stuff. Is that okay with you, Brittany?
Guest:             Yeah let's do that, boo.
Leyna:             Is sex, any different when you're having it for pleasure, versus doing it for work. Guest:               Hell's to the Yes, mind you, I've been a sex worker for 30 years, I've had a lot of different work in sex, right, how did I used to put it in my in my youth, you've got slaves, you've got boy toys, you got boyfriends, you've got acting partners, you've got clients, you know, and there's different kinds of sex that you have with each one of those individuals. Right and I think out of all of them the only one that's not sex work is probably going to be your fuck buddy, if I mentioned the fuck buddy I may have forgotten the fuck buddy. Oh, and of course the one night stand that rarely ever leads to a twofer. And if you're a one night stand don't think you're going to become a twofer, because that doesn't happen automatically. And if you're twofer, you might have a chance to become a boyfriend, but nobody usually ever makes it to a twofer. But, you know, out of the range you know most of them are going to be sex work there's a few of them that are you know on the pleasure side, and now I'm a sober woman as well I've been doing this sober thing for Lord almost 10 years. And, you know like a huge aspect of like when I got sober that was really difficult with my sobriety is probably the exact opposite of what most people think it's going to be, I always was sober when I had work sex, right. And then when I could relax and not have to care about, you know, the camera and how I looked and you know half the time I was, you know, producing and directing the film, or if it was you know, full service sex work you know making sure that I was safe in my environment or whatever it may be, when I could just get fucked up, relax and like have tons of orgasms all night long. So when I got sober, like it was, it was difficult because sober sex was always to me work sex. And then, you know, having a couple of glasses of wine that was more my relaxed, enjoyable personal sex. So, yeah, there's, there's a huge difference between work sex and personal sex and you know and then let's just talk about work sex you're usually never having sex with somebody that you would have sex with for free.
 
5:13
Leyna:             Right, wait. Okay, yeah, I guess, do you ever orgasm when you're having work sex?
Guest:             Oh all the time. I mean…
Leyna:             Really?!
Guest:             Yeah yeah but it's like the difference between what's the best way to explain it like if you've ever gone to bust a nut and then decided to hold back, and then you decide okay now we'll finally have it and it comes out like, EH, and you're like, oh I really should have just busted a nut the first time it would have came out like much better. Right, so like the EH kind of like the work sex orgasm. It's not like you know, it's nothing to tell your mother about.
Leyna:             How do you identify, are you bisexual.
5:54
Guest:             No, I'm very straight, but I do like cute Asian girls, I know it's not PC to better size, a particular race and I'm still trying to figure out how to do that politically correct and if somebody knows, let me know because I do like to be politically correct, I just haven't figured out exactly how to say that quite yet and I've brought it up to other people and they haven't told me at either, but anyways I'm just gonna spit it out you can yell at me later, but I do love cute adorable Asia girls tied up to the ceiling, and to like torture them, and do all kinds of like, you know, things of that nature, for free, or as part of work. Well, yeah, I probably wouldn't do it on my free time all that much anymore, but when I was in my youth, you know, and I was still exploring my sexuality I've already done it so I don't need to do it to like it anymore, but I still aesthetically, you know I love you know good rope bondage, or Shabari and all different other kinds that you know I just think it's so beautiful. I've always loved Asians my entire family does my brother's got a Chinese wife my nephews got a Japanese wife my other nephews got a Filipino wife, my father married a Filipino. I've always had a lot of Asians in my life as well. My favorite are Japanese by far. I speak a little Japanese. (Japanese spoken)
7:19
So for all you Asia men out there thinking that you know hot blonde bitches don't like you, it ain't true because this one does and I like, you know, and I do love Asian women too, To a certain extent.
7:30
Leyna:             Let's talk about the sex work.
Guest:             All right. Let’s talk.
Leyna:             What does that cover because I hear sex work, I'm thinking like more on the prostitution side, but it covers a lot more than that right?
Guest:             Absolutely sex work pretty much covers anything that has to do with making money within the sex industry so that means if you have an only fans and you show your nipples girlfriend. You're a sex worker. If you're a stripper or you're a sex worker webcam model if you're a dominatrix you're a sex worker if you're a full service sex worker, you're a sex worker if you're a porn star you're a sex worker, it's ripe with various aspects of working within the sex worker community. I remember when that word first came out I believe it was from Carol Lee in San Francisco. And I remember, oh you know what I got goosebumps right again right now I remember when it first came out I knew it was going to be huge for those of us that are sex workers and I remember so many porn stars hating it because it takes away the ego, and something called "whorearchy" which I don't believe in, at the end of the day, we're all sisters, whether you're a straight sex worker or whether you're, you know, making $250,000 a month on your only fans, we're all sisters in sex work we're a community and we're a voice. That's what the word sex worker finally gave us the ability to organize with legislation and policy and to have advocacy and to have a voice, so that we can't be stamped out by people that don't agree with our lifestyle that don't agree with our business and that don't agree with us having a voice and want to put us down as victims. Of course there are victims and when you can separate consensual sex workers from those that aren't you can put your time and resources into those that actually need the support and help instead of hurting a lot of individuals that are consensually loving what they do and absolutely having a place on this planet that is divine and in perfect order. Every Goddess has you know her own work to be done on this planet.
9:37
Leyna:             Do you still do full service sex work?
Guest:             I'm not going to get into that, particularly because you know there's different kinds of legal issues around that, but you know I am in full support of full service sex worker, sex workers and many individuals that are in the adult industry do also do full service sex work as well. At this time, it's still not decriminalized. And don't let any of the politicians out there tell you that the Nordic model is a good model to move forward with it is not full decriminalization is what all sex workers need in order to have a safe, healthy working environment.
10:15
Leyna:             Well, and who are we kidding so we know what happens. Right. We know a lot of people are involved, probably even the same people who say it should not be legalized right?
Guest:             Aboslutely, we know politicians have never gotten hookers
Leyna:             No, never, so…so .
Guest:             Yeah exactly.
Leyna:             Um I've talked to a lot of couples who are in the lifestyle you know what I'm talking about right wingers and many of them, like having a sex worker bringing a sex worker into the relationship so that they can explore that without the concern of, is he going to fall in love, and leave me. Have you ever heard of that kind of arrangement?
10:56
Guest:             Yeah, I absolutely agree that's a way safer way for the relationship if you care about your relationship and you care about each other. Don't fuck your friends.
Like, don't go into business with your family. Don't fuck your friends right, you know, kind of a common rule not to say it can never work out that you can't do business with your family and that you can't fuck your friends but there's more likely to have a lot of things go wrong and feelings get hurt and things happen. If you are going to fuck your friends you know do it after you've had some experience, just having sex with, kind of in a safe environment and I think that's what a sex worker provides is a safe environment, you can tell the bitch to go when you want to.
 
11:39
Right? Cuz I’ve done it myself with partners right, it's like okay let's get a girl, but I like knowing that I have that control that I can tell him we're done with her. It’s time for her to go like it's gotta be about me right now right like my feelings are hurt or something happened like, it's good for me to be able to say, bitch, be gone, give her money right, and she's like, sweet I only had to be here for half hour and I got paid for an hour. See you guys next time right no feelings hurt.
12:06
Leyna:             What is the going price these days, and what does it depend on.
Guest:             Well, it really depends on typically notoriety, right. So, your average porn star is going to be probably around $1,000 an hour, right so if you're on average porn stars are going to be around $3,000 an hour, your average local sex worker in the Midwest is probably going to be 150 to $300 for an hour, and then maybe in the Midwest, if you've got somebody really beautiful. That's kind of got some local notoriety maybe up to $500 an hour so you know and then you've got celebrity rappers you know that have kings and Dubai that are you know kings in Saudi Arabia and stuff that are getting them that have got really high prices, because a lot of Kings Over there love themselves some, WAP. And the prices range across the world typically based upon the notoriety of the pussy.
13:10              
Leyna:             How do people like, how do you find, you know, unless you've already got someone you regularly go to, or if you're someone who frequents…how does someone who hasn't used a sex worker before, find one and not get in trouble.
Guest:             I don't know if they're supposed to give him this kind of advice out but hypothetically, I would suggest to try to find review sites online and find a sex worker that's been highly reviewed, because then you're not going to be getting a bait and switch, you're not going to have somebody that's going to be ripping you off, you're not going to have somebody that's law enforcement, you know, all of that type of thing, one of the reasons why a lot of, they like to call themselves hobbyist individuals that see full service sex workers like to get porn stars is because you can't do a bait and switch, right, like, there's only one of you, it can't be like one blind bitch that's in the in the ad and then you send somebody out, it's like no if you getting Britney Andrews you, you can only am Brittany Andrews right. A lot of guys alone just like getting celebrity sex workers just because of the bait and switch aspect of it, but it's important like anything in life to do your research, don't do it impulsively don't like just see some hot chick in an ad and be like yeah let's go for her, do your research so that everybody is safe, and also if you're going to be seeing a reputable sex worker, you're going to have to go through a verification process. You want somebody that does do this because it shows that they are a professional, and they care about your well being in their own well being, so just be prepared that you're gonna have to give occupation information, or you're going to have to have a multiple escort references, or you're going to have to be a member of a verification website, how safe is this information that they are giving out. I mean it's a pretty safe. Yes, I mean at the end of the day it's important to do your research, you know, find an agency that's got a good reputation. But really, do your research, you know, and then all of the verification websites you know I've never heard anything going down with them and I've been in the business, like I said 30 years so it's understandable, you're going to be worried about these types of things. However, there's a price for everything right. I also recommend have a separate phone, you know like, do things do you know, this is how I feel, you know, a I don't believe that anybody should cheat or anything like that but it's also none of my damn business your arrangement, but if you are going to make sure that you're not hurting somebody else involved that doesn't necessarily need to be like cover up your tracks in a respectful way to that individual. I know a lot of men that have got like an Amazon locker with another phone and that Amazon locker like you know just you know be smart about how you're going to go about and do things.
 
16:07
Leyna              Let's talk about safety because I think one thing that a lot of people who aren't familiar, who are who don't approve of these kinds of arrangements. The first thing they talk about is STDs and, Oh I wonder, you know how many people she's you know, blah blah blah. Can you talk about the safety measures that you guys take and how safe it is to actually use a sex worker?
Guest:             Once again, like I said there's different types of sex workers so let's just take a dominatrix. For example, most dominatrixes never even have any sexual intercourse with clients whatsoever at all. There's a lot of dungeons out there like the only intercourse, they might be having is with a strap on in his ass. Of course, yeah. Only pegging going on around there.
 
16:55
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17:22
Guest:             So porn stars we get tested every 14 days and we get full PCR DNA testing which is like most regular like we like to call them civilians. They get something called Western Blot Eastern tests, and that's something like 86% Correct, with a six month window period, the testing that porn stars get is like 99% correct with like a three day window period. So, if we go to do a shoot, we have to have a two week test in order to be able to shoot and now with COVID, we have to have a 24 to 48 hour COVID test as well. Now, your say run of the mill average sex worker that's a completely different thing right. Being that it's not decriminalized. There is no legislation on how they run their business or their body. So that's taking a higher risk and a higher chance. However, once again, if you're going to a model that's got really good reviews. If she's got really good reviews. She probably likes what she does, lives a good healthy life and is going to take care of her body, body, mind and soul, and is going to be somebody that uses protection at all times. Also too, if you've got an escort that's got a drug or alcohol problem, they're probably less likely always to be making sound decisions for their body and health in mind if you're a guy and you want a wild chick and not use a condom,
Leyna:             then that’s what you’re gonna get,
Guest:             which there's many guys that are out there that are like that that's what they're but if you're a healthy couple that's looking to explore. You're going to want to look for an escort that's got really good reviews, nice pictures, have a conversation with her while you're doing the verification.
19:18
Guest:             Of course you can't ask a lot of questions to that particular escort because once again it's not, it's still a criminalized activity here in the United States. So you need to be aware and careful when you're talking to the model of your choice about the things that you say in conversation because you don't want to be putting her at risk. And one other thing some models are they're willing to do like, like a coffee date for a couple 100 bucks as well so at that point you could, you know also do something like that of where you had more questions to ask, you know, sometimes that's on the table, and if it's that pertinent to you that you have certain questions that you need to ask that can be something of that where you could offer her, you know, that scenario as well.
20:03
Leyna:             What is it that a man doesn't really just try to crazy like good crazy. Oh, good crazy yeah good good crazy.
Guest:             When a man understands that the pussy gets wet, not from touching me but from stimulating my mind. Men are all kinds of fucked up in the head about female sexuality, you know, They think that grabbing you touching you kissing you waking you up in the morning with this thing poking at you is automatically going to make you horny. No bitch. That's not how it works, the female brain it's a book, read it, buy it, learn it, you know, we need to have, we have need to have mental stimulation, you know so many marriages like they go to shit with the whole sex thing because guys are going like this. Oh, you're not horny by my belly grabbing your boob What's wrong with you. Dude, seriously step the fuck off. You're nasty You haven't even like gone anywhere near to making me horny, like you need to get into my mind you need to learn what I find to be a sexually invigorates me right that's gonna like get me stimulated mentally once my mind is going to tell me some role plays and storylines that type of thing, then, then we can talk, I mean, before you ever even touch me like I should be in a place to where I'm like,
Leyna:             Like you want him to touch you right?
21:35
Guest:             Yes exactly. And that’s the thing that men do not understand and I think it's really important that as women we need to like slap them upside the head and give them
 
 
Like, listen dammit, you're doing it all wrong and you have been for centuries. And we're not taking it anymore.
21:56
Leyna:             What is the biggest complaint that you hear men make, whether it's their wives or their situation at home or their whatever what, what is the big complaint that men often have.
Guest:             That the other partner doesn't want to do it.
Leyna:             Right so they're not having enough sex.
Guest:             Well, and they're not because they don't know how to make the girl horny. Leyna:                       They don't realize it's their own fault.
Guest:             Exactly, they really think that this “let me grab you, let me touch you, let me pull your nipple” They think that that makes women horny and it’s like no that disgusts us so it's like sending us like an unsolicited dick picture, they just oh, it's the same thing and!
Leyna:             Why?! I'm sure you receive a lot of just crap because I'm on the news and I received those kind of pictures, and it grosses me out like the first thing I think of is, really, he thinks this is going to do it. I don't understand, dick pix actually,
Guest:             Well you know, and now it's become a really big thing on only fans, you know, and I hope that all of us models on only fans start saving the rest of the female population because, you know, now it's all these decorating videos and pictures that we do now I have a decorating scorecard we do the we do I have like 10 different ways to do decorating so you know, like a one to 10 is one price, then a decorating scorecard is like another one and then the decorating pic review and then a decorating video, and then there's like five different custom video types that you can have for decorate so I'm hoping that now that every you know check on the planet has got an only fans and we're all doing decorating now know where to go to take their dick pics and pay women for it and we can all live in a happier, more civilized society because of it.
23:52
Leyna:             Hey, does height matter.
Guest:             Yes, absolutely. And you know what at the end of the day, once again, men are getting it wrong there too every woman will tell you on this planet we it's not about length it's about girth.
Leyna:             That's true.
Guest:             It's about girth, it's not about length.
If you're going to fill me I don't care if you've got like a 10 inch long pencil bitch, nobody wants that.  That’s just gonna hurt.
 
24:20
But if you got a shorty with some girth you're like yeah I can, yeah I can work with that I can work with that right, you know, I know especially for myself too like the older I got, like, I'm like eh, if it's going to my ass I like them to be big, but if it's going in my pussy, it's like, not so much.
Leyna:             Really. Yeah, you would think it was the other way around.
Guest:             Yeah, but I think it more has to do with my sobriety thing, because I find, you know, I just did a scene yesterday with the lovely Shawn Michaels who he's been in this business longer than I have and the last time we did a scene together was almost 25 years ago. And we're actually going to do a sit down to go hand in hand with the, with the scene and talk about systematic racism and the adult entertainment industry Shawn Michaels is a black man, and talk about the evolution of racism in adults because there's really not too many of us that are left, that could have that conversation, right from a white person and the black person and their perspective and the business and so we just thought it would be a really good idea to utilize you know I'm not doing a scene that long and then having that dialogue in that conversation. He recently went public, that he's into T girls transgender Oh, hmm. How can you be a sex worker for 30 years and not get frickin bored. Right. I'm like, right, I totally get it that you're into T girls now it's like you've been in the business, how many years, like there's a certain level of like, oh okay what's the next thing, what's the next thing you know what's going to excite me what's the next thing I way prefer anal sex. Now, because just that gentle sex you know sober can be just so boring because I have a neuro association of it as being work sex, you know, so if you shove something really big in my ass it's like, oh, this is entertaining. Oh, yeah, I feel that I feel that yeah exactly right.
 
26:24
Guest:             I don't know how much longer are you now cuz I'm starting to show pretty big things in my ass and you know that can only go so hard to write one of the things as a, as a older blonde milfs in the business you're going to get two kinds of scenes right, and you know whether it's politically correct or not, it's the facts so don't hate me for what is and what is is you're gonna have scenes with like boys that look like they're 15 years old right yeah of course they're not but that's what they look like, you know, so it's the the milfs, or you know, older, Mrs. Robinson thing, and then big black cock in your ass right, and literally I get booked all the time with one scene on Monday with the 15 year old in the scene well they're not 15 really don't want to  say age that but they look like they're young, right and then the next day with the big black cock in my ass right, but I haven't shot any of it for my only fans and you know all my fans are like, you can't sell me any and I was like, You guys have been so nice I need to get some big black cock in my ass so that's how the scene with Shawn Michaels ended up happening, and I'm, I'm really happy because I think it's gonna give us a really good opportunity to have a very important conversation because the BLM didn't just happen in, you know the mainstream world anything that happens in big Hollywood happens in little Hollywood ie the adult entertainment industry so we've gone through a really heavy, you know me to movement, Ron Jeremy is in jail just like Harvey Weinstein is. So, you know, We have a very parallel universe of everything that's going on, goes on in our own little microcosm as well. And, you know bipoc is, what is it, black indigenous people of color, was created within the adult industry so that people of color within the industry have a voice, and have a lot more resources and support and my girls cinnamon love was the one that started that and I'm fully in support of it and it's been doing really great and I'm really excited for, you know, a new generation to be in a business that's way more accepting than from where I came from.
28:32
Leyna:             Yeah, nice. Um, you talked about first one tell everyone where they can find you because I saw your Twitter post and I looked at your wish list on Amazon. Yeah, like you love pink and glitter and stuff I have a girlfriend just like that.
Guest:             Well you know what I'm making a bimbo room.
Leyna:             Oh is that what you're doing.
Guest:             Yeah  because if you look here, if you look at my wonderful, I've got this is my dream of genie room here.
28:54
Leyna:             Nice, uh huh.
Guest:             Right and then in the other room, I got a dungeon. And then, and then the other room we're building is a bimbo Barbie room because I really love the whole bimbo fetish right shuttlecock you know into my throat far enough said that all my brains goes out and I'm just you know like this plastic cocksucking loving nympho whore I love it.
 
29:20
Leyna:             Where can people find you?
Guest:             The best place to go is Allmylinks/DJBritstar so it's all my links  dot com forward slash DJ Brittstar because I DJ too.
Leyna:             I know that you love the ditzy blonde thingy bimbo thing. Right, yeah, I love that you're actually anything, but that.
Guest:             That's why I'm like, if I was that I probably would be offended.
 
29:46
Leyna:             You're right about that. That's the way it, that's the way it happens so more power to you. I won't ask your age.
Guest:             I'm 47, I embrace my age, I earned every one of those damn years girlfriend. Yep. Hashtag old bitches are trending. Oh.
 
30:06
Guest:             Yes.
Leyna:             Before we go,
Guest:             yeah here Yeah,
Leyna:             So as you're getting older. Yes, and especially you doing the work that you do where it gets a lot of use down there. Yeah. Is there anything you can do it. Are there exercises are there, like any words you can offer our female audience.
Guest:             Yes, there's, there's lots of laser treatments and exercises.
30:30
Yeah, there's like all different kinds of places that you can go to with different kinds of laser treatments for both the inside, the outside there's Labiaplasty that you can do for the outside, there's all kinds of kegel muscle exercises, it's a muscle. So, you know, there's many different things you can do to keep it going, guys don't care as much they're just happy to have a whole, you know, we overthink everything. See you know what, and that's one of the things I love about this business like not to be rude to some of these, what I would consider to be, you know, what's the PC way of putting it right like I work really hard to be like this blonde Barbie doll that's kind of like you know, got everything perfected in the dream look great, but there's other models in my business that look like they could be smoking meth at a truck stop, God bless, they don’t…or not and there's smart, savvy business women right, and they've got no tons of followers on Instagram and are making bank, they're not perfect their hair is all kinds of not politically correct their way does not they don't tend like they are not traditionally good looking women and men every man I talked to is like, I want to fuck that bitch.
Leyna:             Right, like you know, there really some something for everyone and the more I talk to people, the more I find out that their people are turned on by just about everything. Guest:                     Yeah, and so true, so you know it's us women that really you know pick ourselves apart. You know I I've got. What I like to call up, PAP phat ass pussy.
32:08
From being a milf and being a sex worker for so long and I can't afford the labiaplasty right now so I'm making it a hashtag and I'm gonna make a trending so everybody who wants to pap go on Twitter and you know make a trend.
32:23
The only person who cares about it is me. Nobody else actually some guys do, that's what they really want. So sometimes it's best well just leave it alone girlfriend, it's all good.
 
32:34
Leyna:             And that's Brittany Andrews award winning adult film star you can find her at all my links dot com slash DJ BritStar, that's all my links.com/DJBritstar thanks, Brittany.  All right, next time on Consenting Adults, it's the first for the program. I'm talking to a man in a cuckold marriage.
Guest:             She had a jerked this guy off in his car, and, you know, he came all over her hand and her ring and stuff like that and then later when we were in bed together. I asked for her hand her left hand, and I was kissing it while we were having sex, and that was an incredibly powerful moment.
Leyna:                That's next time on Consenting Adults.