Ep 24 No Pants Required

A couple both on their second marriages find freedom in the lifestyle to explore things their former spouses wouldn't allow and discover things once thought as taboo that have them enjoying sex more than ever before.

Ley EP 24 – No Pants Required
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Leyna: It is mid January 2021 a big week ahead of us as the country and really the rest of the world waits to see the inauguration of Joe Biden. I know a lot of people have expressed on social media that they planned justice stay put, especially on that day, but really the whole week, even more so than we've had to because of the lockdowns, but they're gonna stay home, watch TV, maybe listen to some podcasts, if you haven't caught up to all of our episodes yet, please do so. This is episode 24 We've got 23, others so catch up if you can. And leave us a rating and review on Apple podcasts, or wherever you're able to, I would really appreciate that. Okay, today's episode is about a couple, both on their second marriage, finding not only new freedom in the lifestyle, but also discovering what many feel is too taboo to talk about

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what can they figure out, and for other ways of pleasuring myself, and that's how I got into like anal play, the more that and when i Hey, oh, that fits there. Okay. And the fact that I can actually get a crazy orgasm through through like anal play like the Whole prostate thing I was like holy fuck.
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Get ready. This is Consenting Adults.

(Podcast Show Open)

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Leyna: My guest today are a married couple, haven't been married too long, just but a year over a year both 47 years old. It's the second marriage for both of them. And what's interesting is, we both kind of bring different levels of lifestyle experience into the relationship, and it's already changing as we speak. What the hell am I talking about, well let's get to the story and see.
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She is Celeste, he is Rock Star not their real names.  But I've seen their picture. You look like a Rock Star, was that a nickname that you just got somewhere down the road 
Guest:     I am a Rock Star but nobody knows it.
Leyna:     Oh, okay. we won't. We won't tell anybody.
Guest:     I’ve been involved in music for nearly 30 years, I've done a lot.
Leyna:    Very nice. Okay, so this is the second marriage for both you tell me if you agree. Don't you think that that second marriages are like the best thing ever. Like you know, like when first marriages don't work out you kind of learn a lot about yourself and a lot about marriages or relationships that suddenly I find that a lot of people are super happy in their second marriage.

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Guest: I definitely agree. Yeah, yeah, Celeste told me, he just well those first marriages are, they're just practice. We got it right.

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Leyna:    So then tell me about your experience with lifestyle type stuff before you got married. Celeste you, You've done it in your prior marriage right

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Guest:     I did actually very early on I was young, I met my first husband when we were both 18 and a freshman in college and not too long after we got married, maybe within two or three months we had our first experience together was someone who was a mutual friend of his, and it was real nerve wracking and I was definitely scared thinking, you know, I don't know what I was scared of other than performance things,
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I think, what was it male or female is male to men,
Leyna:    sounds like you had a threesome. Yeah, but threesomes aren't necessarily lifestyle right,

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Guest:    Not entirely correct. That's, yeah, we just, you know, kind of, he was a seemingly a like minded individuals and we dipped our toe in and we're John that was like he was also engaged through to be married. Once he got married it certainly didn't continue with him as frequently as I thought it would and then we started putting out personal ads and meeting other couples.
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Leyna:   Okay, so if you're meeting other couples that to me kind of qualifies them so you dip your toes in and then you kind of dip the whole leg and, then jumped in, right?
Guest:    Definitely . ding ding ding ing.
Leyna:     Rock Star. I'm going to assume to have a little experience, experimenting with fun sexual activities.
Guest:    Yes, you're correct.
Leyna:     But were they lifestyle things, or were they just
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Rock Star things.
Guest:     Just feel you're kind of right. No, I I guess I have a superpower of being able to sniff out bisexuals.
Leyna:     Do they have a scent?
Guest:    yes we do, the scent of a woman. Yeah, and it would kind of pop out or if they weren't sure they were, but they ended up becoming. So I was, I was the first for many and certain things were there it was threesome. Anal, actually I taught somebody how to give head one time.
Leyna:     So you taught a woman, how to give a blowjob.
Guest:     Yes well, how to blow me. it was her first time anyway. it was kind of interesting to kind of like, just put your mouth on it.
Leyna:    My What a great teacher you are. 
Guest:  Y eah, well you know I was really fairly young. I was in my early 20's  I was a late bloomer , i couldn't stand anybody when I was in high school I was just pretty much a metal head. The people I dated kind of stuck around for a while,
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and I think part of it, you know sometimes it's accidental right you find yourself in a circle of people him different than I where we went deliberately looking for it but the crowd of people that he typically was surrounded by when people who were artists and musicians and pretty sexually expressive and free. Maybe they didn't brand themselves as lifestyle but they certainly engaged in a lot of the similar practices,

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Leyna:   you were doing these things that that I think probably a lot of men experimented with or experienced. At what point did you Rock Star, feel like you really got into the lifestyle was, was it. Now you were married before, did, did your former wife take part in any of this.

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Guest:  No at all. It was just kind of like I mean she was bisexual and very much into women we like to check out women together but when I would mention, you know, any kind of threesome or meeting couples she would shoot down really quick.
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Leyna:  She didn't take part in any activities, outside the marriage and she wouldn't let you either
Guest:  no, no.
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know I guess we got her fill. During her younger days. I just had to kind of just lock it away, the last five years was really rough and I just got to the point where I was like, I need to get out of this. I couldn't be in a marriage that was like Loveless, and I refuse to be around and be miserable. Just because you have kids, you know.

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Leyna:   Right, okay. So fast forward you meet Celeste and eventually get into a relationship, now you're married, almost a year. Is it your kind of newlyweds Oh, yes, very much so we're about two weeks away from celebrating our one year anniversary. Can you tell me about kind of your first experience as a couple in the lifestyle together.

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Guest:   Oh definitely, we went we went to a lifestyle party, just kind of mix and mingle meet and greet, to for St. Patrick's Day, we're like, okay, let's do this. And then here we are like preparing and or like getting dolled up
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extra care for grooming, I made sure to have the tightest pants I could. There was someone that he already knew so there was a familiar face, and I think there were probably 212 women and three men. Oh wow. Yeah, it was definitely interesting mix of people but I have been to actual, you know swinger parties if you want to call them that where people just show up they shake hands have the pleasantries you maybe drink a glass of wine and eat three or four crackers with the fees and then look at each other like, are we going to the bedroom. That was, that was my level of experience so this was very different in that there was a lot of social conversation going on until finally they said hey let's all get in the hot tub.

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Leyna:    It's always the hot tub.
Guest:   And I thought that darn hot tub is the old ice breaker so my memorable moment was, I was naked in a hot tub with five other women
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who were also naked.  so that was our very first experience together. It was like in heaven.
Leyna:  Okay, you got to tell me more about what happened. You can't just say you're naked in a hot tub with five women,
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Guest:   you know, everyone gets them, and we all have our suits on, I didn't actually bring my suicides in my bra and panties and right away I was like I have no shame about taking my boobs. Oh, I'm not embarrassed I love my breasts, they're very very nice. But I also kind of feel like I'm the ringleader to make other women comfortable just because I have a pretty good case of, you know body confidence. So everyone just kind of, you know, it was like, like sorority girls Whoo, and the rest are over here's like, Who wants a foot massage. So he starts massaging fee and you know nice thing you know like pennies are coming off and, and I'm looking at this gal next to me and I like oh she has some really nice breasts too and I think I'm going to slide over next to her, which I did and he's massaging fees and then he looks at me and he's like, oh my gosh I took a look and like there's my wife and she's got like her face and boobs. Boobs Yeah. Holy shit, like at somebody's feet my head, but at the time in the tub was, was pretty good and people were just really comfortable but nobody pulled the trigger where we actually went to the next level. Because it's outdoors, and it was March it was chilly, so people then kind of decided to start pairing off and go inside and the gal that we found that we were kind of attracted to actually did go inside, but she laid down was taking a map. So, you know, we, we, like college at each other and decided like we're not going to be that person we are you know you don't buy something just to buy it. So we agree, Like what the experience that we had at that point in time was good enough and we made some cool connections with people and stayed in contact with them so. And the gal who took the nap like we ended up texting with her more and for a while there, like she was kind of our unicorn. Yeah, and we had a we had it, we went on a date with her.

Leyna:   And that's the one that turned out to be an accidental orgy.
Guest:   Oh, yes. It was an accidental orgy, it was, it was that happen. So this gal She's amazing. She's just a lovely, lovely person and she, she was also of the similar mindset with Rockstar and the same background she had been married her husband was not interested in this at all. And so she preferred to just be slowly dipping her toes in the water.
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Yeah, trying new things she was around our age as well. So a new thing for her, it was like a Saturday and we said let's let's go to the, you know, a pub and have a couple of beers and a charcuterie tray. And so it just turned out that there were some other folks that we knew both, you know, from, from work who were there, and one of my buddies tagged along with us.
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Yes. And so this gentleman and his girlfriend were there and, and, you know, about halfway through the evening the single gentleman's like oh she's really cute I said oh she's on a date with us. And that's when he was like, oh, that's what's happening. But the other couple that guy was starting to feel a little loose a little frisky so that that little pub is very close to their home, they invited us all the guff come over, of course, they say, Hey, there you go again. So sure enough we get in the hot tub and then they're like, can you figure out your boobs. And I'm like, here we go again 2.0 But after that we went into the house and this other gal was, like, for some reason she was feeling confident she decided to be the aggressor. So she tells the guys like you three stay here and we're going in the bedroom to have some girl talk was Is she lit like every candle in the house. Yes, brought out three different massage oils and just like wiped it on our unicorn took over a unicorn and just started kissing and whatnot. Next thing you know, we look up and look there's the boys with like three chairs, three bar stools watching us. And then we finally said, Well, come on in, join, join up.

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Yeah, it was the less is more like somebody get their deck out as he looks at me and I'm like, okay I guess I'm the one to three hours with a really good amount of passion, he nakedness mounting and well there was a lot of stuff going through just sensory overload going on first. And I was like, and, and there's that guy, you know, and these people do, and this and that and I like my buddy has his hand in my wife and I'm like, Oh, and there's a better face like in some

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way go into Golden Corral or your every candle is lit every massage was out at one point I have one of these to all the putty. Yes, They got into the closet and brought out their giant chests of goodies where, you know, there were floggers and ballgames and toys, and we're just like, everything is out everything. Okay.

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Guest:   there was laughing, you know, so in the middle of it we were telling jokes and oh yeah, that was fun because I was just thinking like it's not, you know, there's no camera rolling, we're not. We're not trying to be porn, we're not on the clock getting paid to do this we're actually enjoying ourselves and those embarrassing moments are not causing anyone embarrassment, we just laugh and roll over like okay change positions, which

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was kind of found on me playing with me she had me in her mouth. And my buddy is kind of standing off to the side of the bed, and kind of rubbing on her and she's kind of caught his hands in her and going in I know is like whoa and yeah I think so. So I was like, I just think you know I squirt. And then it's like, strong, yes you do. All over my leg and whatever else was back there and

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he looks at our offer. At first, he's like, Oh, is this okay. So there was a fence, and people were polite, there was nothing being done that nobody wanted to do and no one was so overly intoxicated or, you know, under the influence that they didn't have there were with all about them, it just, it was a it was a really a completely accidental but very, very good time especially because the other couple who were whose home it was. So this was new for them as a couple and it was also kind of, you know, they were famous us and I think that's probably what made it so comfortable. It was also their first time together, doing something, unscripted with other people as well. Yeah, that's a pretty amazing kind of first experience it was for all of us after in the days afterwards we were continually talking and texting and just kind of reflecting like wow, there were no, no one's feeling uncomfortable or slighted or insecure or jealous and in fact we continued to give each other like the proverbial high fives and texts afterward, but with a great job on your woman, you did a great job on my man. Thank you. Go Team,

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Leyna:    It sounds like it couldn't have gone better for you guys right for this first experience, so you're, you're in the lifestyle you've both kind of decide, we'd like this we're gonna continue right

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Guest:   yeah what's a little difficult to me and then I tell Rockstar all the time is this like that particular experience for me it was like lightning in a bottle. Yeah, it's never gonna happen again. It's never gonna be created it was completely holistic nothing was contrived it all came together and that's a pretty high standard so sure, we have a little bit of a reality check afterwards and that we and I don't think we're deliberately trying to recreate that but when we are reading other couples and under other individuals we're just looking for that intellectuals are or that sexual attraction or even that, you know, same feel sexual attraction and in some instances, it's just not there. There's no we will both look at each other, or like any of us are taking one for the team tonight again right you don't buy something just to buy something. Right, but we've, we've met up with people who are, are of that mindset, though. Oh, I thought I was gonna get one off tonight. Oh, no, sorry, that's the path that we're traversing that is, creates a kind of a bumpy road for, for having those good experiences as you've got these. I wouldn't call them terrible or bad, it's just not,

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Leyna:    well you've set the bar very high. And it's going to be hard to, to match that. Tell me about this recent thing, Celeste. Where you told your husband. He should find a girlfriend.

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Guest:     I does align with you twofold. Oh, the horror. You know twofold, I am certainly very sexually adventurous, and you know there are certain things that are not off the table for me but there are other things I have limitations on like what. Well, he's just happens to be pretty well in doubt and I really enjoy, you know, no sex. My, my prior partner, who I was with for a couple years really was the one that brought me around into accepting and loving it, I really did. I was like, but he was on a large and Ross tires a little bit larger so sometimes I'm like I gotta look at this a little bit more to get more relaxed and feel comfortable, that's part of it. And I know that he likes that so I don't mind. There's someone else they can provide that if I can't. Well, I never pressure, no, no, and, but the other thing is, you know, and we're all caught up and this is been a rough year, I work in a profession I work in an essential business. My profession is extremely demanding and it requires long hours of the day for me. And by the time I get home sometimes I'm just like, and I already know what I'm going to be doing tomorrow and it's an extension of what I did today because it didn't resolve itself so when mine just isn't always there. Yeah, so what I said was, hey you know if there's if there's, It's okay. I trust you, you're who I'm married to I'm who you're married to we know where we're coming home and where we live every night. I certainly want people to be able to enjoy the pleasures that life has to offer without hanging up. And so that's, that's where I was coming from I basically told him that and he kind of was like, I don't know if they're like this are hot in this conversation and I don't, I'm not. Where is this all coming from Do you still like me and I said, Yeah, this is not about not liking you, not loving you. Not, not loving myself, it's just the you know I don't expect a man to be in a desert thirsty for water, for months and months and months, realistically,
Leyna:     you're looking for, like, a respite lover.
Guest:   Oh, I love that term, right, I do. Wow that is brilliant.
Leyna:    Are you in health care?
Guest:    No, my daughter is.
Leyna:   Okay, so then you understand respite care.
Guest: She is a respite worker. 
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Leyna:   Ah, yeah, so  looking for a respite lover,
Guest:   I love it. Yes. Nice.
Leyna:    Okay so Rockstar after you got past the wait a second, why is she saying this, have you now come to accept it, enjoying it. Are you searching. Are you going to take it and run. What are you doing,
Guest:    ah, I know what to do with it,

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Leyna:   really.
Guest:   Yeah, that's like you know dropping me in the candy store and saying hey you can eat all this. Here's a check right the amount. Um, I did have your kind of someone lined up that it just kind of happen but I was like, I'm still not really sure what to pull the trigger, because, because, you know, in the beginning who was like, you know, this is this is all about us to you know, meet are you doing this together. Yeah. And, you know, I just want to have the, the enjoyment of seeing her with somebody and but all of us also be able to look over and she can see me and watching each other, but you know it's funny because she had told me a little while back, she was like, it didn't happen if there's no pictures.

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And I was like, I hate to use this term but if you want to call it a hall pass call it a hall pass. But again it didn't happen if there's no pictures. But I think part of the hesitation on his part is we did agree in the very beginning when we first went down this road that these are new experiences for us to be doing together going places we haven't gone before either separately when we were not together or, you know, and, and so that's, that, that has slightly shifted.

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Yeah, we had to put away all of our wants and needs and desires and stuff, doing some relationships and then now it's like to freedom because the relationship is awesome. Like, I love this woman, like ridiculously, you know, I mean I can't keep my hands off her, you know she'll be like putting on her makeup in the morning and I call it a bad neither one is still open and I'm like grabbing her but

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here's the thing about that is, like I feel so loved and I feel so I feel the sexual attraction, and it makes me feel amazing, but I also feel like, gosh, I imagine there are other women out there who might be missing this as well. And there's more than enough of him to go around. But everybody has something to bring to the table and from everyone we learn and grow and get enriched and I just don't want
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to cut you off but I just I did get invited this week to go and partake in a glory hole.
Leyna:    Oh, wait a second.
Guest:   I forgot about that. Yeah, I got text message to a glory hole, oh that's that mystery hole where a penis pops out of and so and so is, um,          Leyna :    I mean I've heard about them, like, but, like, in my head is like, didn't that stuff exist like back in the 70s or 80s or something like that.
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Yeah. Yes. Big thing in the gay community was like all the, like The theaters the booth and stuff, or bathrooms,
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back in like the tenderloin District in San Francisco. Leyna:    Okay so you're invited to a glory hole explain what it is exactly that you're invited to.

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Guest:   I got a message from this, this guy, and he was like Hey, so I have a married couple of the couple I've played with before, with, and they are wanting to have to a glory hole session, and that I'm going home on their house, and you won't ever see them you won't meet them. He's going to be in one of the rooms and it will be the goal the whole setup, apparently they now make portable glory hole setups. Just put them in a doorway and just
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like a doggie door but for penises. Leyna:      Hold on, hold on. Okay, so then if you go. Um, you stick your penis in this glory hole right. Yeah, and then you don't know, you don't know who or what's on the other side?

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Guest:   I know who it is, I just haven't. It's, It's so apparently it's the husband wants to video, the wife, during the process, and he's going to be in the room with her. Filming Filming this. And in so this other guy, he was like yeah you'll, I'll let you in. I'll direct you right to where you got to go, you know, and you put your torpedo in the porthole, and fire away. And then, you know, high five, you're out of there. Wow. Have you done this before. No. Wow, I was like what, so this is the second invite that I got the first one I wasn't able to make it, but I told the last about it I was just like, hey.

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Leyna:   Interesting, yeah. So where does that for us. Hey so okay so that we know Celeste is bisexual. Yes. How about you Rock Star.     Guest:       I, I guess the bi situational. I've heard that or like minded open. Leyna:    but what is your stance,

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Guest:   I think it's more the person, the personality. I've dated some, some hot women or do some not so hot ones but it's like the personalities what gets me. Yeah, no, and so well but...Leyna:   Have you have you dated men?    Guest:   No.  Leyna:     Have you had sex with men?   Guest:    Yes. Leyna:    Is it enjoyable?  Guest: Yeah, it was fun, and the fact that,

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wait a second. We want to go on hold. This couple where we have the accidental orgy. The male half of that couple came over. And, yeah, he came over and he said, I'm in town l for over visiting some friends up the street, what do you guys do and we sit over, get ready to go. I was putting on my costume. I oh we're getting ready to go have a beer maybe see a band we don't know any, like, oh cool hey I want to like show you something in the bedroom.            Leyna:   Did you fall for that did you fall for that. Guest:     Well I guess I better go up the lookout. So I went to the kitchen and left those two alone here in the room and like 10 minutes later they both came out beaming. Okay, well then I need to hear the story from her

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was quick. Bye, but our actually our first encounter was really with him and his girlfriend, the four of us. This happened like mass last November. And we were all like yeah it was pretty hot and heavy, and we all actually. We did a podcast called Let's peg our men. We brought our rigs over and they had the girls both like strapped up and they're like, I'm gonna do mine and I'm going to do yours and you can do mine and set. 
Leyna: Okay, so you're, you're all very very giving, you're all very generous.

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Guest:  We are, we trust them so I think that was the thing if you felt comfortable with Rock Star and he was getting he was the giver Rock Star was the receiver on Halloween, basically way I'll give you a blowjob.
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Well, that's funny because like we were all, you know, out there just hanging out and like Celeste is sitting on the couch and she was like hey, well while she's doing that. How will you come over here and come check this out and I'm like, huh, and he's like yeah, ahead and she was kind of like the ringleader, because she's all about, like, two guys. Three, three or more

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about people feeling accepted and comfortable that there are no boundaries and there are no judgments and if this is the time that you want to be free to experiment and let your guard down and there's pure consent happening, and again no judgment. I'm still gonna treat you the same tomorrow I'm still gonna look at you the same we're still gonna talk about going to Starbucks and getting our frappuccino. Nice. But it was cool, I was cool, it was hot, but it was kind of like, it was the first one on one with with him and another male. I was like holy shadows, now, Buddy else's equipment. Yeah,
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Leyna:    It was just another sexual experience or have you found yourself attracted to men before,

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Guest:    not necessarily men. I guess the more like penises. You know, once they look more like mine.
Leyna:    Oh interesting
Guest:    because, uh, yeah, I was in a stage in the early 2000s where I was single and I was kind of like, what can I figure out for other ways of pleasuring myself, and that's how I got into like anal play, the more that and when i Hey, Oh, that fits there. Okay. And the fact that I can actually get a crazy orgasm through through like anal play like the Holy Grail prostate things like homing Bach.
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Yeah, so there's not. I think what she's asking him, correct me if I'm wrong but yeah he definitely doesn't look at him and go, who he's hot. It comes through more of like the talking and the comfort level yeah I'm not in comment yeah
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I'm not, it's not the physicality of looking I'm not not looking to be with guys or having relationships. I'm not even a fan of kissing, man.

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Leyna:    I think you are bi situational so if the situation presents itself, and you're right, the feelings are there.

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Guest:   The fact that it turns her on want to see two guys together. I'm like, Okay, I'll kill down with this because she'll she's excited, I mean, the point I have is the ones on my phone or the video of that same guy talking my wife. I don't like, and I come every time
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I let you know, we're in, we're being intimate with each other, we, we talked about telling you what he said you told me what he did tell you how he touched you and that turns me on. Sure, you I know, turn for him too so I hear I hear that level.

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Yeah, totally. And then we know when she's when when she's pegging me. We brought that whole thing into the to the mix then she's like, oh hell yeah well, I'm down.
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I'm like,
Leyna:   Celeste. So, you know I've obviously heard of that, as a woman. Do you get something out of that. And it or is it all in your head is that just a, you know.

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Guest:  No, well it. My ex husband was into it, but we did it a little differently I didn't wear hardest, we just want me to insert something and I was actually very put off by it. I couldn't understand. I just couldn't wrap my head around it psychologically I'm like I don't I don't understand what the feeling is and he wasn't able to articulate like it feels great here he does this to me It stimulates me in this way. So when Rockstar brought it up, it was kind of like, okay, um, you know, I'll try it. And it's gonna bring you pleasure so the first time I was more mechanical. But actually, the physical act of putting on the harness and putting everything on was kind of like, I'm getting on the horse and I'm gonna go for a short trip. And to do it and did I do it right, did it work. Yes, it did. And then, but it also felt very liberating extremely liberating and very powerful in some ways they're like No, and I don't mean power meaning power,

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Leyna:    no I get that it's like, Have you ever as a woman thought, You know what, if I had a penis.
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Guest:    Oh I could be terrible. All day right. And then my life after that I'm going to be a shark.
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Leyna:  Man, a male shark.
Guest:   But no known predators and yeah, in the ocean, just use Oh, yeah, but by the second time I was much more comfortable with the mechanisms and the movements, and then by the third time I was extremely around very very Rouse and turned on and I figured out a better position and ways to move my body where it was also stimulating myself at the same time, to the point that I was like, Oh, I think I'm having an orgasm right now to wow this is just one side. So it was just kind of growing into it and understanding what works for both parties. But yeah, it's definitely a pretty. Take it took it up a notch, to the point now where, you know, we're like, oh, we want to buy this upgrade, we do need to spend a lot of money on the first one because it didn't know, but truth be told this breakfast better money you spend the better your equipment. Yeah, like it is with anything you buy the cheaper refrigerator or the good refrigerator you buy the key harness or harness. But yes, definitely a very freeing experience extremely freeing and extremely erotic very very erotic because there's so many different sensations going on, depending on what position you're in and getting to see the look on your lover's face when they're just an absolute ecstasy is. That is so amazing. That's what fills up My Cup every day. I love
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seeing the look on her face wash me. Just to see her like eyes just get, like, Oh, can you guys comment down call down. We'll take care of it. After all I know is that, since we've been together I've become like more free to like be me, and, and have no problems trying things and being curious and experimenting and all that stuff I was just like, Yeah, I can tell her anything.

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Guest:    Okay, yeah, with the focus of this podcast being older individuals, you know, lessons learned from your youth, your early 20s where everything's reckless abandon, and then your. Yeah, your 30s or like you kind of settle into that maudlin routine. And then there's, you know I used to tell my girlfriends when they talk about that age or men hit their prime are women hit their prime. I wouldn't call myself a cougar, definitely not, but I don't ever feel like there are days where I'm like I'm still in the prime, it's good, but I'm also more accepting of my body, my mind is more attuned to where my partner's thinking like there's just so many more benefits of going down this road when you're older, because there's the confidence issues, and, and all the other things just just slide away. Yeah, so you're really just in the moment more often very much in the moment to be able to experience the pleasure and enjoy it without all the unnecessary distractions.

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Leyna:          You can find this couple on Twitter at no pants couple that's  @nopantsCpl. They also host the no pants required podcast. All right, Next time on Consenting Adults, a couple tries to explain what many couples not in the lifestyle. Can't seem to understand and that is why we turn you on, to watch your partner, having sex with someone else.

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Guest:          The idea that I'm watching this live pornography with my partner involved right  right in front of me. That's a game changer when it comes to sexual behavior between two people.
Leyna:            That's next time on Consenting Adults.