EP 077 Real Rape Fantasy

Are rape fantasies normal?  A lot of people have them, but not too many people talk about them.  There can be a fine line between fear and eroticism.  Mr. & Mrs. Jones took it to the next level by making their first in-person meeting a consensual non-consent rape fantasy brought to life.  Both describe the experience with surprisingly different memory of the details.  This couple are swingers like to experience as much as possible.  They're on Twitter @MrMrsJonesFL
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EP 77 Real Rape Fantasy
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​Guest 0:00
And I walked in on them and she was sucking his dick. Oh, and I was kind of shocked by it because I was like, What the hell?

Leyna 0:07
So you are consenting to being raped by this guy that you met online?

Guest 0:11
Pretty much. As I stood there, I was just like shaking because I was so nervous, like, What the hell am I doing? How did I get to this point?

Leyna 0:22
You walk into the room, it's pitch black. You go to the end of the room, then what happened?

Guest 0:29
So I'm shaking. I'm standing there and I can feel his presence.

Guest 0:34
And at one point I just shoved it all in and kind of deep sorted and that was very very intense.

Guest 0:40
I was so wet I think that it was like the wettest I've ever been in my life up until that point.

Leyna 0:47
So do you guys then get off on the jealousy part of it? Yeah, for sure. So let's get to it.



(Podcast Show Open)

Announcer 0:55
The conversations you're about to hear are intended for mature audiences. If adult themes are offensive to you, you may want to use that safe word.
So dirty talks next time. Yeah, it started off as dirty talk.
I was actually like very excited to see my partner with somebody else. She looked at me and said, so you want to have sex with other people.
And you find it a turn on to hear about what he did.
Yeah. And then it's like, I want to come home and get it the way she got it.
Does he know you have a boyfriend This is consenting adults with Leyna Nguyen

(End Podcast Show Open)

Leyna 1:29
My guests today are Mr. And Mrs. Jones, and boy do they got a thing going on. Listen to who these people are. She's 28 She's six feet tall, long legs grew up in a sheltered environment, no sex until 21 and she's been making up for lost time. He is 38 years old. He's six foot four. Oh my god. When you guys walk into a room, everyone was like, oh, and he's originally from Germany. There's so much to talk about. Mrs. Jones, you only started having sex seven years ago?

Guest 2:05
Oh, yeah. Yep. And then only started having really good sex about two years ago.

Leyna 2:11
And then Mr. Jones, I hear you guys in Germany are kind of kinky people. Is that true?

Guest 2:17
I would argue that we are very rational right and then that can go both ways. Either we are very asexual or than to the point that we're very kinky. I would say we're not kinkier than others.

Leyna 2:31
Okay, well, I don't know. We'll see. Okay, how did you guys meet?

Guest 2:37
We met on a dating app. We just had an instant connection and it kind of just took off from there immediately.

Leyna 2:45
Okay, but this wasn't a lifestyle site, right. It was just a regular dating website. Correct. All right. Now, had either of you been in the lifestyle before meeting each other?

Guest 2:56
I kind of did things that are lifestyle ish. Without really knowing that the last existed. So I had a girlfriend that I did certain things with, like what we had like our very first threesome, and that was something that another girlfriend of mine tried to introduce me to and I was at first shocked and we broke up over it. And then when I met this new girlfriend of mine, she was in LA back then. And a little older than than I was given that she was a little older. I didn't take that relationship too serious. And I was wondering how threesome would go. And that was kind of my first experience into the lifestyle without knowing that exists.

Leyna 3:32
Right? So was it a threesome with your girlfriend? And another woman or a man?

Guest 3:37
Well, they need to take a step back. Right? So I had a girlfriend and she was pretty kinky. And then a friend of mine was in town. We all went out and never would have crossed my mind that she would try to initiate a threesome but right before we went to bed, she said Oh, she'll just go say goodnight. To my friends who was in the living room. And then after not coming back for like 10,15 minutes or so I went to check on them. And I walked in on them and she was sucking his dick. Oh, and I was kind of shocked by it because I was like, What the hell? I was. I was confused and I wasn't sure if I liked it or not, and eventually broke it up because I've broken up with her because I was moving away from Denver anyways. Right but Were you jealous? I was I would say at first hurt. And I also felt like humiliated. But later I realized that beyond being humiliated and hurt that it was turned on. You'd like these multiple emotions. And one of these emotions is being turned on but you don't really notice that but you can immediately tell because you're so distracted by the hurt and the humiliation the aspect that it takes you a while to kind of get to that.

Leyna 4:45
Okay, so fast forward, you find another girlfriend you start saying a maybe a threesome is something you actually do want to try.

Guest 4:53
Like I said she was older. I was 28 and she was 42 and she was highly sexual. Like the sex that we had was off the chart I want to I want to maybe like do stuff with her like either a threesome with another girl or like a threesome with another guy. And then one weekend a friend of mine was in town from from France. And then I lived in San Francisco at the time and my girlfriend lived in LA both of us kind of drove down to LA that same day. And the moment we arrived we we didn't really talk much about it like we immediately got into it. I started like making out and I want to start fucking like my girlfriend in the bedroom. And when he came out, he started fucking her and that was like literally my first threesome


Leyna 5:32
And what was your reaction?

Guest 5:34
I loved it. I loved it because in that case, I at least had the excuse that I didn't care about my girlfriend right like, there was like the the element of hurt and the element of humiliation didn't really exist. And it was like super hot. It was just sex. It was just sex. Yeah. And I really liked it because because it felt like I can dominate.

Leyna 5:54
Are you bisexual? I'm not. Okay, so you never have any interactions. with other men? No, I don't. Okay, so Mrs. Jones, we know that you really didn't have much experience right? Or did you

Guest 6:08
No, I didn't have much experience at all. I was in a relationship prior to meeting Mr. Jones, and he was actually the first person that I had ever slept with. Oh, yeah. And he and I dated for six years. And that was shortly before I met Mr. Jones. I had very little experience.

Leyna 6:29
So then you guys meet each other in what we would just call like a normal way on a regular dating website. At what point did this lifestyle stuff come up in your relationship?

Guest 6:39
Again, it's like harder to find what's life's and what's not lifestyle but to your point. When we first met it was literally about traditional dating sex was not part of it. But we such immediate strong connection. We're like we talked about so many different topics very openly and honestly. And it quickly turned into discussing like a rape scenario. Oh, I openly told her the things that I like I like to dominate women and then she likes to to submit and we kind of quickly came up with this idea. Would it be crazy if our very first interaction very first encounter was not only sexual, but it was in fact a rape scenario because like how much more real can IT field and to actually do that on your on the very first encounter that you ever had? Wow,

Guest 7:27
I was really surprised that I was turned on by this whole thing because I had had just regular sex up until that point. In fact, my ex and I never even discussed what we liked or didn't like when it came to sex. We just kind of did it. Yeah, we just did it. And so when he brought up to me like a consensual non consent type of scenario, I was like really surprised that I was really turned on by it and really into it. And so I was like, You know what, fuck it. Let's do it.

Leyna 8:00
Rape me? Pretty much. Okay, and so for anyone who missed it, we have to say it was consensual, non consensual. So you are consenting to being raped by this guy that you met online? Pretty much. Okay.

Guest 8:15
It sounds a little bit, I'd say, like intense. But obviously this was the result of all these conversations that we had leading up to that, right like at first we talked about random things like, like non sexual in nature. And that kind of led to that scenario. And it was

Leyna 8:35
really the result of a lot of sharing and conversation.

Guest 8:38
Exactly. It wasn't that the 10 minutes in we talked about like a rape scenario. I think it was like probably a week or so like after like a week of talking and it was like in the middle of COVID. That's what we came up with. And given that we had that intense connection that was based on trust, honesty, transparency, we kind of I would say both came up with that scenario. And then after that happens, right, no,

Leyna 9:04
no, no, no, no, no. You're fired. Tell me what happened. What was the plan

Guest 9:12
Oh my God! So the plan was we were gonna meet in a hotel room and he was gonna give me access to the hotel room without seeing him. He hid the hotel key somewhere in the parking lot of the hotel, and he told me where it is. And so I found that hotel key and I went up to the hotel room and I got changed into like a sexy outfit. And when I walked into the room, it was pitch black in there and I had to just walk straight to the end of the room. And as I stood there, I was just like shaking because I was so nervous. Like what the hell am I doing? How did I get to this point? Because up until that point, I was like really turned on by the idea but when it was actually happening, I was turned on but I was also terrified because I'm like this guy. I've never even met him in person. Why the hell did I commit to doing this? But it ended up being the most

Leyna 10:13
No, no, no, no. 
Leyna 10:17
Part of that fear, right part of that fear was the plan because if you're going to have a rape fantasy, you gotta be a little scared. Right, right. Yeah. So tell me what happened. You walked into a dark room

Guest 10:29
 Let me add some details because I had, I wouldn't say girlfriend but there was a girl that I saw on a regular basis. And he had also the getting ready to get DOM sub relationship. But we don't didn't have a emotional connection. It was just purely sexual, right? And I've learned a couple of things right. For instance, we had sex and then one time I just had the idea of using like a trash bag to put overhead. Oh, that the point of the trash bag was to humiliate her like to to make her feel like as if I don't even see her face, and I just want to use her body. The point I'm trying to make is that I had a little bit of experience and I had a similar scenario with another girl. But the problem was that it never felt real. And the reason it never felt real is because she knew me. And because she knew me, there was a certain level of trust. And because of this level of trust, it never really felt like a real rape scenario. And the way to make it feel real is you can't like know the person. In our case, even though we had this really strong connection we never met in person. So I thought, okay, that could actually work. So the idea was okay, the girl has to walk into the room, has to be pitch black, and she must think that hypothetically, even though I just talked to the guy and we talked about everything in detail, this could still derail, like, it could be that there's another guy in the room and and that's actually what added to to the to the nervousness.

Guest 12:00
And the original plan was in fact, for her to walk into the room without me being in the room. So when she walked in, I changed the script, instead of actually being outside and eventually Joining her in room. I just stayed in the room and she could tell she was super nervous. And she almost kind of I think bailed because she said I'm not sure I can do that. And he she stood about I think for like, how long was it like 10-20 seconds in front of the door before he actually opened it in walk.

Leyna 12:34
Okay, you guys, are you ever going to get to the rape part? 

Guest 12:39
That was actually intense because I had like she didn't know what I was gonna do. We discussed limits beforehand, he and he said like, bondage. Anal spanking, you know, like fake drowning stuff like that. And I just said yes to everything because I, I had I was at a point where I had never tried anything sexually. No anal, nothing like that. So I was like, You know what? Yeah, yes, yes, yes. And I felt like I trusted him. Even though we had never met in person. And I just wanted to try everything at least once. And if I didn't like it, I'll never do it again. So I said yes to everything, but in a nut shell do like, 

Leyna 15:11
Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, here we go. Yeah. I want to hear from Mrs. You walk into the room. It's pitch black. You go to the end of the room, then what happened? 

Guest 15:25
So I'm shaking. I'm standing there and I can feel his presence because he is extremely tall. And so I feel that he's come close to me and then like that first touch, he like, gently touched my shoulder and I just like, I was shaking, I could feel myself really shaking. It was one of the most intense moments of my life because I didn't know what was gonna happen. We discussed you know, him slapping me in the face. So I was like, I have no idea he's gonna you know slap me right now. So but he didn't. Thankfully, he just touched my shoulder gently and started. I think kissing me because he felt that I was really nervous. So he like started kissing my shoulder. And then once I calmed down a little bit and felt like slightly more safe. He started taking my clothes off. He put a blindfold over me, and then tied me up, and then put me down on all fours. I didn't know that there was such thing as a paddle.

Guest 16:24
I thought he was gonna spank me with his hands. And then when he started spanking me, it was really intense. After spanking me with a paddle he I think he started fucking me from the back and then I was so wet I think that it was like the wettest I've ever been in my life up until that point because I think your body just has this natural response. And so yeah, I was I was extremely wet and turned on at that point because it just it was just like a cathartic experience. You know, I was so afraid, yet turned on.

Unknown 17:02
It was so many different emotions, we call it multi dimensional emotions. He then told me that he's gonna have like some more guys come in and start fucking me. Oh, and I I'm freaking out at this point. Because I'm like, what guys and anything could happen. We've already discussed that. Like, everything is on the table pretty much and I was like okay shit. I'm gonna get fucked by all these guys. All right, let's do it. Thankfully, he wasn't serious. I think it was just to freak me out. But then he said he's, he wants me to go into the bathroom and step into the bathtub. And I haven't even seen him yet. Like I've been blindfolded this whole time. I'm about to trust this guy to shove my head into a bathtub. Potentially drowning me. So I'm, I'm freaking out again. We go into the bathtub. And he like puts my face in the water but I could tell you is like not going all in because he like immediately took my head out. He was obviously not wanting to even play. Yeah, but you know, the the feelings were still there. You know it potentially happening. So Wow. In a nutshell. That's that's everything that happened 

Leyna 18:18
And then ended the lights came on. You looked at each other and said, Hi. Nice to meet you. 

Guest 18:23
No, actually, that isn't what happened. It was very interesting. So afterwards, he left the room and he told me he was he told me he was going to leave and like for me to get dressed and that he was going to come back in. So he left then the then I turned the lights on myself and I got dressed and as soon as he left the room I like burst into tears and it wasn't like out of like sadness. It was just more of like, you know, it was a cathartic experience. Like I said just like all of these emotions came to pique and I just burst into tears and I was like, what just happened? And then he came back in a few minutes later and he was dressed and like his regular clothes. I had changed into my regular clothes that and it was so weird. It felt like almost like did that really just happen? And yeah, we introduce ourselves and it was almost like two different people. 

Leyna 19:17
Of all the things that you just told me the least surprising thing that you told me was that you burst into tears because like listening to you describe it and trying to imagine how it must have felt like even before you told me I was gonna say did you start crying because that I felt like that would be the appropriate response. Wow. Okay. Let's hear from Mr. So this was probably your most real rape fantasy acted out

Guest 19:51
Yeah, it is the best scenario ever. Like that's the most real encounter I've ever had and sexually that was the best encounter I've personally ever had.

Leyna 20:00
Okay, now when she told me this story, did she leave anything out? Because you know sometimes okay. 

Guest 20:05
Yeah, let me add a couple details. Right. So I brought a dildo, and I basically forced a Deep Throat on her. And I knew that because I've done it before where basically the girl doesn't know what's going to happen because what I typically do is I kind of bring out the dildo and she kind of, even though she's blindfolded, she figures out that it's a dildo, and every girl including her thinks that I'll just make her like, suck on the dildo a little bit, right, which she kind of did and then we kind of played with the build a little bit to work. I went in and out a little bit with it. And at one point at one point I just shoved it all in and kind of deep throated her and that was very, very intense. And I kept it in for 20 seconds. She couldn't move because she was all tied up. And that was the second moment. And then the third moment is something she didn't know like I didn't tell her that I would that I would fake drown her right because like the idea was to make her feel like this guy's nuts. Like he did everything he said he would and now he's gonna kill me or like drown me and like some alter your moments. And I think there's also some instincts that kick in when when you're underwater, where no matter what you're thinking rationally, like emotionally you're freaking out. You panic. The problem was was that I'm also freaked out by that to be honest.
Because I don't want to drown anyone. And later we realize I think she's really comfortable in the water.

Guest 21:30
I was pretending to be drowning.

Guest 21:32
Exactly. She was pretending to be drowning. So but the problem by now was that were like, let's say 80% 90% And which means by now she kind of figured out and I'm not a murderer, because every sin every every time it was a little bit more intense, you could tell that I kind of took care of her. I would like hug her or like give her a little kisses and stuff like that. So by now it's obvious that it's not going to end up in the murder. But still, we beat both played long something she makes it also just want to add is beforehand. I said that once it's over, I'm going to leave the room because I don't want to give you the opportunity to receive any attention or like for me to be nice to you. I'm gonna leave I want you to like feel like shit. I want you to feel like taking advantage off. I want to let you want to feel raped and possibly the guy's gonna disappear even though he didn't murder me. He's not leaving me and this idea of us being together and having a romantic relationship was always like was always like just a fake story to make her do this. 

Leyna 22:36
We should also add that it went well. But there's always the possibility that you could have been a nut, right? Yeah. You could have been a wacko and trust me there are plenty of them out there. So Okay, wow.
What's your favorite thing to do? I mean, what do you really like?

Guest 22:56
I think it's the I think we're always more intrigued by the the mental aspects, right? Because like physically, there are only so many things you can do. I think based on the story that we just we just shared one of my thing that were like really interested from a physical standpoint. But I think what they miss like what they would miss is I think it's 80% mental, like we're more stimulated by the the mental aspect. And I think that the one thing that we're most into is it doesn't really matter what we do, but it matters that we like the illusion of the off betrayal. And the reason why we like that is because we're not jealous, but we like the illusion of betrayal because what we've learned is that it triggers our basic instincts. And what I mean by that is we've learned that after having these swaps, that we would typically have the most intense sex afterwards. And it's not even rationally like it's just like a bob like a body or emotional response. I want to feel desired. Like I want to feel like you want me and nobody else and I know that when I like sleep with another guy and you get triggered and have those like, you know, primal instincts to reclaim me. It makes me feel desired and like you know, that you want to consume me and that's that's what I get off on. 

Leyna 24:15
So do you guys then get off on the jealousy? Part of it? Because there is separate kink that like that drives you? For sure. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So what all have you done Mrs. Jones since like before this you pretty much just have vanilla sex? Yeah, since meeting Mr. Jones and getting into the lifestyle what all have you done?

Guest 24:37
Oh, man, I mean, everything from him fucking my best friend which would have been unthinkable in a previous relationship. And fucking two of my closest friends to being in a gang bang and recording it to getting fucked by multiple guys at a party. You know, just I feel like I've done pretty much everything everything at this point. Yeah. 

Leyna 25:03
Anal?

Guest 25:04
Yes, yes. And I've finally mastered that after a lot of time. I think I finally figured that one out and enjoy it. 

Leyna 25:13
So at first you didn't enjoy it?

Guest 25:16
I thought first encounter when he was a rape scenario, we plan 

Leyna 25:22
Hold on a second Wait, when so on your first date? 

Guest 25:27
That was the plan but like he put a put a butt plug in me and I had never had anything in my ass before that point. It was so painful and it was like the smallest butt plug you can imagine. There's no way that that was gonna happen. We really thought that I wasn't the type of person that can like have anal because my ass was too tight. And then eventually, with a lot of practice, and it's really just it's a strategic thing. You basically have to push out Yeah, and relax. And not just relax. You have to like push out when something is going inside. And then like you kind of open your the muscle. And that took so long to figure out because I had so many people tell me like you just need to breathe, which did not fucking help me at all. And so like yeah, we finally figured it out. And Mr. Jones is not small. So it took a lot of it took a lot of practice.

Leyna 26:26
And now you actually enjoy it. 

Guest 26:27
I do. Yeah, it's very enjoyable for me. 

Leyna 26:32
Okay. DP DVP. 

Guest 26:35
Yeah, we've we've had a couple of DPS. We haven't tried DVP yet though. That sounds really intense. And I guess like that should probably be up on our list since it's one of the few things we haven't done. DPS are really hot. Like, we all know it from port and whatnot. And we've tried several times, and it's really difficult. So logistically, right, it is yeah, basically because exactly because it's like really tough, and that you guys are like too tall drinks of water. Hello.

Leyna 27:07
You can find the sexy couple on Twitter there at Mr. Mrs. JonesFM. 
It's cuck week next week and we've got something just for that starting with a very revealing talk with a cuck who outside of the bedroom has a high profile job. 


Guest 27:25
The meeting is I'm taking on on a daily or weekly basis of our legitimate legislatures, governors, secretaries of state attorneys general so it's a very high powered job. And I think that you see a theme of people with those kinds of high powered jobs where it's like, okay, I punched out. I don't want to be this anymore. I’d like to let go just a little bit.

Leyna 27:45
That's next time on consenting adults.